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Posted 9/21/2016 6:34 PM (GMT 0)
I have bartonella encephalopathy and since the beginning have had swollen lymph nodes so i decided to try red root in the beginning of Buhners protocol to detox first.

My first dose (1 dropper) caused my adrenaline to spike; high heart rate, weezing, teeth grinding, hyperactive, incessant thoughts, fidgety, lights even brighter and sinuses irritated.

The problem is, i usually have these symptoms anyway, especially if i eat the wrong thing. In the past detox reactions for me have been the typical fluish, achy episodes so i have no idea if this is a herx or just a bad reaction. Im usually leary of doctors who say everything bad is a herx, that certainly hasnt been my experience.

I took 1/3 of that dose today and the same thing happened, just less extreme. Anyone have issues with this?

Post Edited (Aerose91) : 9/21/2016 12:38:57 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/21/2016 6:49 PM (GMT 0)
I haven't taken red root...but honestly, it does sound like a herx to me.

Are you able to up your detox?

Starting with 1 dropper is way too much.

So better on 1/3 which is about 10 drops.

If I were you, I'd drop back to 5 drops and see how you feel.
Posted 9/21/2016 7:02 PM (GMT 0)
Does it really? Its hard to tell because herx sx's seem the same as bad symptoms. I took some clay afterward and did a coffee enema to see if those would help but they didnt.

Im definitely going to reduce the amount
Posted 9/21/2016 7:08 PM (GMT 0)

Aerose91 said...
Does it really? Its hard to tell because herx sx's seem the same as bad symptoms. I took some clay afterward and did a coffee enema to see if those would help but they didnt.

Im definitely going to reduce the amount

Yes, herxes are generally a worsening of your symptoms.

Are you detoxing regularly...or just when your symptoms ramp up?
You really want to detox regularly - and keep on top of it.
Posted 9/21/2016 7:40 PM (GMT 0)
Oh yah, i detox daily- several times daily, and have been for over a year

Coffee enemas, epsom salt baths, oil pulling, alkaline diet etc..
Posted 9/21/2016 10:38 PM (GMT 0)
I take red root but I've never has an issue with it.
Posted 9/21/2016 11:40 PM (GMT 0)

Krimpet 🍔 said...
I take red root but I've never has an issue with it.

That's what im not sure about, I've yet to see anyone who has had an issue with it. For me it starts less than a minute after taking it and last the whole day
Posted 9/22/2016 12:00 AM (GMT 0)
That's interesting....but remember we are different and our bodies metabolize differently. Why don't you start with 1-2 drops, 2-3x a day and build up from there? At the end of the day, if things don't get better either you will stay on a low dose or just have to stop altogether.
Posted 9/22/2016 1:43 PM (GMT 0)

Krimpet 🍔 said...
That's interesting....but remember we are different and our bodies metabolize differently. Why don't you start with 1-2 drops, 2-3x a day and build up from there? At the end of the day, if things don't get better either you will stay on a low dose or just have to stop altogether.

I think what im going to do is stop for a couple days and hopefully let my body get back to normal. Then restart with just a few drops. I can't believe how intense the reaction was.
Posted 9/22/2016 1:57 PM (GMT 0)
This may explain it for you:
"Michael Moore speaks specifically to Redroot’s impact on the blood and lymph:

“As a tonic, you need to understand that Red Root, particularly the tincture, helps to diminish the tendency for red blood cells to clump together in blood that is either high in fat chylomicrons (after a heavy meal, as an example) or with elevated inflammatory compounds (from allergic, sensitizing or other immunologic responses), a condition called rouleau. Another way to describe it is having sticky or viscous blood, with adhering constituents and diminished surface tension or charge. Red Root kicks up the charge, helps blood cells and inner vessel linings repel each other better, the blood, while not changing chemistry, changes its osmolality and flows better. This aids the transport across capillary walls of diffuse substances and the non-protein fractions of blood that becomes interstitial fluid and lymph.”

bearmedicineherbals.com/ceanothus.html

Red root can literally help your body get more 'coverage' from your other meds/herbs.
Posted 9/22/2016 8:25 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting. Thank you!
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