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Posted 10/15/2016 3:12 PM (GMT 0)
I've had this done to see what supplements my body likes- it was close to what I thought.

Sounds hocus pocus till you experience it.

Anyone have this done for lyme or co-infection ID?

I discovered someone who does this, how they ID, I have no idea.

enlighten me
Posted 10/15/2016 3:18 PM (GMT 0)
I have watched a lot of videos on the net about muscle testing. You can even do it on yourself.

I am not a kid, but when it comes to stuff like this I get big eyes, my mouth drops open and I feel like I have just seen a magic act.

I have been floored when something was given to me because muscle testing said it was what I needed and it worked! Magic!
Posted 10/15/2016 3:21 PM (GMT 0)
Personally I don't believe in that. Please, don't get me wrong. I wouldn't do it on myself, however it doesn't mean it may be beneficial.
Posted 10/15/2016 3:37 PM (GMT 0)
Opinions may vary on this till you've experienced it. I'm science minded (I work in it), so I like proof too.

I doubt I could do this on myself for supplements, my brain cant trick itself. I'd probably "Like" the more affordable ones LOL!

But I've had it done to me, with supps disguised mixed up in small brown bags.- so neither I or the practitioner knew what was what tilll I opened it.

As far as testing for which infections, thats seems to be pushing limits, thus this post.
Posted 10/15/2016 3:38 PM (GMT 0)
I have. Its amazing right? Dr. K developed it and hes pretty legit
Posted 10/15/2016 4:31 PM (GMT 0)
So yes I've had good experience with this for supplement testing.

But to test this way for what infections you might have seems, well.........out there a ways.

So if anyone has used this to ID THEIR INFECTION, I would like to hear from you.

Post Edited (astroman) : 10/15/2016 10:39:35 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/15/2016 6:05 PM (GMT 0)
Hello!

I have not had muscle testing done to ID lyme-related infections but I have had it done to ID other health issues... I was so ill a the time that I don't remember what happened. The person I was seeing is really wonderful and she did a hundred other great things for me that I initially thought were strange and impossible but turned out to help me make another few steps toward progress.

My current LLMD does muscle testing for herbal remedies, combinations, dosing, sequence. So far, so good. What the naysayers have to remember (I know this now - I was one of them) is that our brains and our bodies are highly complex structures that operate in ways we do not yet understand. I have no doubt my muscles can communicate info my brain cannot generate.

-p
Posted 10/15/2016 6:50 PM (GMT 0)
I had it done just recently..see signature....and i had it done for the treatment for all the co's. Im awaiting my treatment list from doc coming this week. I was originally dx with als because of my hands and small speech issue but that didnt seem right to me so researched for months and realized i was lied to by mainstream white coats. I have so many other symptoms that dont go with als but they do with lyme co's
Posted 10/15/2016 7:17 PM (GMT 0)
I have been to Kinesiologiest and done muscle testing for supplements and infections. It depends on the practitioner some have more talent at these things than others.
I am saying it works if you have the right people but its not 100% ever.
For testing for co-infections I would do electrodermal scanning - look for someone with a bioressoance machine, or a vega. I wasn't sure I trusted it at first and since it was fairly cheap I went to 2. Lyme was showing up but the first practitioner didn't find bartonella or babesia. The second one confirmed it for me. They weren't there with the second test but she found the same other infections the first one found. My kinesiologist had told me I had both babesia and bartonella. On reflection I think the science is more accurate.
Posted 10/15/2016 11:00 PM (GMT 0)
Oh on my twin mycoplasma came up positive with muscle testing. We are gonna try to confirm it in a month with igenex.
Posted 10/16/2016 4:12 AM (GMT 0)
I've never heard of this... Could somebody please explain it a little?

ArtAngel mentions electrodermal testing, if that's the case then I have heard of this and have had electrodermal testing done but never my a kinesiologist, is there a difference?

I've had major lyme brain the past few days so sorry if I am not making much sense!
Posted 10/16/2016 4:40 AM (GMT 0)
For infections its called ART. Autonimic Response Testing created by Dr Klingheardt from Under Our Skin 1&2. In a nutshell a doc places viruses or bacteria on you or in your aura and tests your muscle response by pushing on your arm to see whats in you. This is also done to determine treatment.
Posted 10/16/2016 4:55 AM (GMT 0)
Oh wow that sounds a little frightening...
Posted 10/16/2016 6:41 AM (GMT 0)
All bacteria are encapsulated and dead i believe. So is the metal and treatments so you're never actually touching it. You have an immune response when it is near you because of energy interactions. The same thing happens when your holding your cell phone or anything with an emf transmission.
Posted 10/16/2016 7:41 AM (GMT 0)
Electrodermal testing works by picking up the frequency of the bugs in our system everthing has a frequency food, bugs, heavy metals. The bioresonance machine picks up the frequencies of that are out of alignment with a healthy body. A bioresonance practition can give you the names of the bacteria, parasites etc. you have in you. Its very good.
A kinesiologist is picking something up in the same way, they have a vile of something and pass it over your body and they can intuitively recognise if there is a resonance there. One is done by machine and another by a trained energy healer. I feel there is a little less human error with the machines, but that was my experience. There are some very talented people out there. But the machines take the risk factor out of it in my view.
Posted 10/16/2016 8:25 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks angel for typing it out lol yeah everything vibrates at its own frequency in the universe.
Posted 10/16/2016 3:54 PM (GMT 0)
ArtAngel- how does one find a bioresonance practitioner. Must not be very many.

I remember my first manual kinesiologist experience. Holding supps and pulling on my arm. I thought I was witnessing vodoo!
Posted 10/16/2016 4:10 PM (GMT 0)
ArtAngel, that is what my acupuncturist used. It is trippy and used with a wand that I held in one hand and a non-invasive probe was put on areas of my other hand. It was weird how the machine figured out so many things about my body.
Posted 10/16/2016 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
I use light therapy and use a grip strength tester. Have my baseline data, and occasionally test different colored filters. I either get stronger, or nothing happens.

Also did one of my kids who was into weight lifting. Found the right color and he was able to do almost twice what he was doing before. In a couple days he was back to his previous weights.
Posted 10/16/2016 5:54 PM (GMT 0)
Astro - what state are you in ?
Posted 10/16/2016 6:24 PM (GMT 0)
DS had this done and I was pretty convinced but now am less so since he obviously has bartonella now he's in treatment for it (stretch marks) and the person who did the testing said he didn't. DS found it pretty interesting though.
Posted 10/16/2016 6:34 PM (GMT 0)
I use it. I have found a doc that is absolutely magic. He works on humans and dogs. He worked on one of our dogs first, and in one visit figured out his issue was a hiatal hernia, adjusted him and he's been fine.

I think it can be one of the tools in the toolbox, but despite what I've seen with our dog, I just think there is nothing going to be that simple for what we all have going on. I think it also takes someone super special to do it well.

My naturopath does it, but not nearly to the degree as the doc I go to now for muscle testing. My naturopath is awesome at some things, and my app. Kin. Doc at muscle testing. I use both, plus an LLMD. They all know I do all of these things, and I'm lucky because they work with one another.
Posted 10/16/2016 8:49 PM (GMT 0)
One doc found giardia before tests but ascaris was hiding ...the energy of borrielia can be in a vial ..and art uses polarizer and can have a surrogate tester if person is too weak ...
Posted 10/16/2016 9:04 PM (GMT 0)
Astroman - yeah it did seem like voodoo at first. Overtime I learnt it works to some degree. At the time it was the best I had going for me. I go to someone with a machine now for testing the original kinesiologists I went to are working overseas.
I am in Australia - bioresonance practitioners are about - there aren't too many of them but its a more affordable course than trying to put yourself on the super incredible waiting list of the rare and expensive LLMD and then paying for tests done overseas that confirm what you already know from a bioresonance test.
Posted 10/17/2016 11:53 AM (GMT 0)
I think that it depends on practitionar. My chiro is great for determining what needs to be adjusted and which direction. He uses it to help figure out supplements but has totally missed my Bb. He comes up with coinfections though - one time it will be bartonella, the next time it will be babesia. Maybe it is what the body is screaming about at the time and the other infections are back burner?

I have an acupuncturist that does the autonomic response testing. It shows what organs are stressed at the time (studied with Klinghart but not lyme studies) I find it to be ridiculously accurate in matching with symptoms.
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