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Posted 10/21/2016 5:28 AM (GMT 0)
Every time I take magnesium, it doesn't matter which brand or chelate, i.e. Mag. Citrate, Malate, Glycinate my inflammation always goes through the roof. Joint, bone and muscle pain significantly worsens. Why is this?

I have Lyme, Bart and Babesia.
Posted 10/21/2016 5:47 AM (GMT 0)
I have bart & babs and i do foot soaks[sulfate]. Have you tried those?
Posted 10/21/2016 5:56 AM (GMT 0)
Maybe you start detoxing too rapidly from it

Sorry about your torture chamber pain 😭
Posted 10/21/2016 7:05 AM (GMT 0)
Its a catch 22..bugs feed off mag ..abx deplete it ,liver uses to detox and all cells need it they also build biofilms with mag and calcium..i got twitching to stop with iv mag chloride 800mg 3 pushes over a month ..
Posted 10/21/2016 11:48 AM (GMT 0)
I've wondered about this too but haven't found much info on why it happens to some. DS herxes terribly when I give him mag orally but does okay with epsom salt footbaths and the magnesium spray. There is so much to remember to give him that magnesium is low on the list and he balks if he sees any mag capsules but I slip one in a bed time if he's already sick just to get it in him occasionally.
Posted 10/21/2016 5:58 PM (GMT 0)
I've talked to people that have this issue as well, but I still can't find much information on it. The Lyme bacteria doesn't feed of magnesium, but on manganese (makes it different than most bacteria), but it could have something to do with genetic mutations which make it hard for your body to handle magnesium.
Posted 10/22/2016 1:27 AM (GMT 0)
Oh, wow, i notice this such as increase heart rate etc after taking magnesium. I take a very potent liqued magnesium which has citrate malate and glycinate forms.

im not sure why, but magnesium long term makes me feel a lot better. don't know why the weird reaction but the 300 magnesium dependent reactions in the body and it's also good for immune system as well.. repleting magnesium levels is important; especially during stress.
Posted 10/22/2016 2:42 AM (GMT 0)

Traveler said...
I've talked to people that have this issue as well, but I still can't find much information on it. The Lyme bacteria doesn't feed of magnesium, but on manganese (makes it different than most bacteria), but it could have something to do with genetic mutations which make it hard for your body to handle magnesium.

Does Bartonella feed off of Magnesium. I literally had mild symptoms and took mag. 40 mins ago and my joint, muscle and bone pain increased significantly. Every time. Tried different brands also. I was low in my magnesium levels too.
Posted 10/22/2016 1:18 PM (GMT 0)
My understanding is that although we need magnesium for many functions in the body, it also goes to helping biofilms, but I'm not sure that's what's causing your issues, as biofilms only protect the bacteria.
Posted 10/22/2016 2:08 PM (GMT 0)
I would highly recommend leafy greens or spinach to increase magnesium and the all great high amounts of potassium and of course micronutrients you get from leafy greens.

If you eat a wholesome amount of spinach everyday i almost guarantee you will start feeling great in a few weeks(at least better).

Either supplementation or through food, I think magnesium is very important. Even if bacteria or biofilms feed off the magnesium....remember what buhner says about l-arginine. The bacteria that feeds off of it will find a way to get it no matter what....whether supplement or not...so the key is to do supplement so your body can make use of it.

I would highly recommend magnesium as someone who takes it myself. Or at least, through foods, or a combo of both; especially to reverse the constant fight or flight that lyme puts you in.

I think I would say magnesium is the key to reversing that fight or flight that lyme puts you in(of course, on the nutrient side of things).
Posted 10/22/2016 4:51 PM (GMT 0)
So is it a gut issue?

Test:

Maybe experiment with spray magnesium oil, yes they have it. Avoids gut, but is oily till dry salt forms, then wipe off.

Spray on certain areas of pain or on wrist veins for whole body.
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