detoxing

Some people cannot do Epsom salt baths. I couldn't because of the hot water and no matter how cool I tried to make it, I didn't feel well.

So I tried just the foot soaks. That didn't work out well either.

I had to skip Epsom salt baths.

You might want to try a lower temperature. Or try the foot baths.

And then you might be like me, and no matter how you try it doesn't work.

We are all different.

What are binders? And darnit i read several places to do it for 20-30 mins so guess I fail at doing my research prior....As I had mentioned in a past post if I am sitting around that is when it is the worst i just feel like im one giant knot needing to be massaged and pain along with it, but other than that i dont feel dizzy, or have things fall asleep the only time my feet do is when I cross my legs, is that "normal" with lyme/bart?

Binders attach to the endotoxins as well as everything else in your digestive track (stomach, intestines) (including any food/supplements, etc) and usher them out.

An example if Activated Charcoal
another is bentonite clay.


I feel the worst when i am sitting around, too...but I often don't feel like doing anything....


When you start detoxing, you start out with a couple of methods, and then every few days, add in one new one.

Sissy63 - I'm not sure if you're detoxing too quickly (without knowing what you've been taking/doing) ...or if you're herxing.

So i myself actually feel better today :) I felt bad for awhile after the bath yest, then was okish at night because I was walking around on a ghost tour haha. But when i got back my back was killing me and my shoulders and neck. but today I have felt well, what could that mean?

I would encourage you to continue to focus on doing more detoxing. That sounds like the typical path that many of us find ourselves on with herxing.

I have not had any of the gene mutation testing done, although I do seem to have the same kind of issues as those that do - so I figured it was best for me to assume that I did and work to get my body to detox much better. It took a lot of diet changes as things with my body changed,
I use a foot soak,
dry skin brushing,
Lymph massages as needed,
making sure my bowels moved at least once a day (sorry if it's TMI!)
pushing myself to drink at least 64 ounces of lemon water each and every day,
liver/gall bladder flushes (all natural) as needed,
Apple cider vinegar,
Quercetin,
Alpha Lipoic Acid,
oil pulling with coconut oil and a few drops of tea tree oil,
using Yogi brand detox tea,
taking activated charcoal (when necessary),
and keeping the amount of stress in my life at a bare minimum.


We have some good suggestions in the "New to Lyme?" thread, and this is a good resource for detoxing ideas for us as well: www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

It can also be the sulfur. Some people dont do well with magnesium sulfate and switch to himalayan which is more magnesium chloride.
I would talk with your doc about it.

How often should I do the epsom salt baths then? And since I might have done it too long yest what is recommended? :)

Saizembko, I want to address not your epsom - although I have benefited from a 40 minutes very hot bath 3 times a week since day one - but rather your "feeling all tied up in knots." I see a doctor in Dr. Schor's practice in Northern Va. and they have a Physical Therapist on staff. I know she has a doctorate and she is a PT, DPT, and CDT (don't know what the last two mean). She does lymphatic drainage and visceral (organs) work. I would go to hr with painful swollen lymph nodes in my groin and in my very stiff neck and after an hour of treatment the glands in my groin are significantly reduced and my neck feels better. She also found the reason for my swollen ankles (which many doctors were clueless about: I have had for a few years at least, a swollen spot on the inside of each thigh. I guess I just thought it had to do with the weight loss and muscle wasting or something. She identified them immediately as swollen glands, worked on them for an hour, showed me how to work on them my self, and now - a week later - the bumps are mostly gone which means I'm now draining and detoxing better. She also taught me simple neck lymph node work ( can't call it massage cause it is a very gentle motion), as well as liver work that I do daily. She also spends time each session on waking up my liver. I think she has been so instrumental in the progress I've made.

Ok....long story but if you could find a good lymphatic and /or visceral PT, it might help. What happens is our faschia gets all tight from the inflammation which causes pain and interferes with drainage of lymph nodes.

I am unfortunately moving way from here to MI. She gave me these sites to try to find someone new to go to. Upledger Institute or Barral Institute .

Hope this helps!

Joanie

I actually felt pretty much normal today, it is so weird. it was hard to get up this morning but no neck or shoulder pain today, worked and had a ton of energy at work (my psychiatrist did up my adderall to 30 mg am and 10 mg pm this am so that could play a roll) but i was go go go all day, not tired at home, its like what the heck am i really sick?

One symptom that still annoys me is when I cross my legs soon after my foot that is up in the air falls asleep. more so my right than left though which is odd. it is to the point where if i put that foot flat on the grount, i cannot lift any part of it up :(

PantsFace and All, Actually crossing your legs does have something to do with detox....My lymphatic drainage PT ( I wrote about her in a post on this thread a few days ago) said that crossing your legs or sitting with your legs crunched up (like on the couch reading or watching tv) closes off the lymph nodes in the groin. I have actual lumps there and have really noticed they get bigger when I've been sitting like that. Closing off the lymph nodes impedes drainage so you detox less. Interesting, isn't it????

Joanie

Saozemko and All, I have ALL those symptoms exactly as you described them. I have been unable to correlate them to anything - what I ate that day, amount of detox, etc. Frustrating

What PantsFace described in their routine at night is called sleep hygiene, and something that we should all do in order to assure we sleep as well as possible.

Saozemko, yes,it's typical to see this kind of detoxing pattern. Your body "told" you that the detox bath moved too many toxins, but now (with those symptoms returning) your body is tell you that those toxins are building again.

So, now you know that the amount of detoxing you've been doing since the detox bath isn't enough for you. You can do the detox baths, just don't use hot water and only stay in the water for no longer than 10 minutes, or use a foot soak instead, and add in a few more detoxing routines as well.