Amino Acids

Is Lithium Orotate a Rx or OTC? Is it addictive?

Not addictive. Its just a supplement mineral like magnesium. Just not to poplular, prob cause the name freaks out people. Some health stores even stock it.

Walmart 5 htp even does something. 5 htp is half "happy pill" and half "calmer". Holy basil, for those with peaks of cortisol is like, .....dude...I'm r e a l calm now...........with out the "happy effect". Its not a downer though, thats for sure.

Holy basil lowers blood sugar a little too. So if your hypo-glucose might not be good. I was not- so OK, I needed it a little lower.

Ashwagonda is opposite of holy basil, it adrenal energy making, very popular, I tried in the afternoon for energy, but was too much.

Important : CALM/magnesium is great, but its a thyroid med "sponge". You WILL go hypo if taking and mag near thyroid med, this is a big bummer for thyroidians. I take mag glycinate at night - could not use in AM with thyroid med.

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Messed up adrenals are related to glucose issues too. Dr Lam the adrenal guru mentions this. The more level my adrenal energy becomes, the more healthy (lower for me) my A1c has been. I was headed toward diabetic, have not been the last two years now.

The endo said , "wow great you improved your diet and exercise, A1c is good again!". (I DID NOT!).

I told him that stuff remained the same, that I've been addressing adrenals and stress NATURALLY and its helping my blood sugar. I bought a glucose meter so knew this was improving before the lab visit. Walmart has A1c test mail kits 2 for $25 too.

Post Edited (astroman) : 10/28/2016 11:20:08 AM (GMT-6)

PeteZa - I dont have kids, but not a day goes by that I dont remember five close people cancer has taken away forever. Two last year. One was also 38.

I'll take lyme instead.

Huddie,

Thanks for the encouraging words. I am getting to a place where I can set goals now. That is a long ways from just trying to make it from minute to minute.

I don't know when I was bit. Based on my health history, it was probably a few decades ago??? I have had strange and random things come and go for long time. The anxiety being the latest and by far the worse.

We have always been big hikers all across the United States, so it could have happened about anyplace over the last several years.

I have very blessed with an understanding work place and supervisor. I was only diagnosed a month ago, but they have stuck with me while searching for what was wrong for the last 2 1/2 years. I have been given a lot of flexibility and people jumping in to help me when I needed it. I will never take it for granted and know that I will pay it forward one day.

Huddie,

Is the anxiety you feel mostly gone now?

We don't hear much about Lyme where I am at....not yet anyway.

The flip switch is exactly right! We were in the middle of a home improvement project and I looked at my husband and said that I felt overwhelmed. He agreed that we had a lot going on. I said that it was a different kind of overwhelmed and everything went downhill from there for a long time. I finally feel like I am slowly climbing out of that pit. I did take a leave of absence from work for a while.

Given that I was 50 at the time, most of the doctor's kept fiddling around with my hormones and sometimes that just made things worse. I finally found the doctor I am seeing now and he said something systemic is going on. He tested me for Lyme and based on the results and my history, diagnosed me with Lyme Disease and started me on antibiotics and supplements.

I started on NatureThroid before the LD diagnosis and that helped a little. I am gradually increasing the thyroid hormone. He took me off estrogen and progesterone for now. He says he doesn't want too many things going on right now.

I am hopefully this will be a bad nightmare one day soon and I can help others who are chronically ill.

Traveling and being around lots of people and stimuli are still out of the question, but I will get there!

What is weird, is that I don't know if I can even call mine anxiety. My insides just like to bounce around and it makes me uncomfortable and not able to relax. I don't have the thinking that everything is dome and gloom, or "what ifs", or that something bad is going to happen.

It is all very physical. I have tried a bunch of anti-depressants and am currently on an anti-anxiety medication and they have never done anything to stop the internal physical feelings I have going on.

I wonder how many of us are really in that camp, but really can't describe it any differently that "anxiety".

Because I feel this way physically, it keeps me from doing things and being engaged in life. Am I making any sense?

I know what you mean - it seems separate from the brain...sometimes I'm just sitting watching t.v. and not feeling any feelings of anxiety...and then my body starts acting up...and I start to shiver, vibrations...and then sometimes I will sweat. THEN after that I feel a little bit of anxiety...but it's starting out physical first...

I'm starting to see a pattern with my treatment now that I'm pulsing every other day.

The day AFTER my antibiotics....is worse than the day ON them.

Girlie,

That is exactly what I am going through....shivers, vibrations, sometimes I get jerking movements, and I can get jaw/tooth pain (but not clinching). I am trying to not pay attention to it, but it is hard to ignore something that feels so real.

Same with me....the day after I take an antibiotic is generally the worse.

I have found sitting in an Epson Salt bath can help some. I take my iPad to the bathtub with me and put on an old sitcom and that takes my mind away from how my body is responding for a little bit.

Sissy63 said...
Girlie,

That is exactly what I am going through....shivers, vibrations, sometimes I get jerking movements, and I can get jaw/tooth pain (but not clinching). I am trying to not pay attention to it, but it is hard to ignore something that feels so real.

Same with me....the day after I take an antibiotic is generally the worse.

I have found sitting in an Epson Salt bath can help some. I take my iPad to the bathtub with me and put on an old sitcom and that takes my mind away from how my body is responding for a little bit.

iPad in the bathtub - oh - you're brave...I'd probably drop it in the tub.

I haven't yet! Haha! I can't just sit and relax, I have to keep my mind on something. That is something I would like to change about myself....just to be able to chill!

Huddie said...
Oh no! How is your pup? We should start an entire thread of how our animals have helped us. Prayers to you and your pup.

 

She is holding her own. She is just getting old.   When I was really sick, she would lay on the rug by the side of my bed for hours.

 

We got her out of rescue about 10 years ago and she was the most unadoptable dog ever....nasty temperament, dirty, mal-nourished, but I had to have her. I broke up so many fights that she started with our other dog for the first 6 months we had her. I was bitten so many times, but they finally worked it out. They were never best of buddies, but they learned to tolerate each other. So, she has always been my dog because no one else in the family had the patience for her.

Girlie,

I am so sorry and you have every right to have felt sorry for yourself. Every right. We had so many animals growing up and my mom had a soft spot for orange cats. I'm so sorry. Animals absolutely sense our emotions.

Sissy, Glad your rescue pup is still around. It sounds like you too are made for each other - he can help remind you how much we can endure and how lovable we all are - just as is.

I was so upset with my dog when I got lyme, I blamed him. It was fourth of July weekend, he freaked out over fireworks and I sat holding his head to my chest (where I was bit). He's a 100 lb. retriever afraid of his own shadow. He knew I changed and was ignoring him. It didn't last very long. I felt awful for withholding love.

astroman said...
Oh- all this with thyroid too. Welcome to the club. I take my NP (its similar to NT brand) first dose in the AM, then 2 nd about 3 pm.

I pays to try different thyroid dosing times. Some people do better with all in the AM. I need afternoon energy though.

I take mine sublingually -with a rinsed out mouth. . Food, less of an issue then. I proved this with testing to. But my stomach is still empty in the AM dose(while in the shower). NP dissolves a little easier than NT or Armour brands- those need a little chewing, then leave in cheek STTM will have this into.

Even though I need T3, (I found out I was born with liver issues T4to T3 in the liver), synthetic T3 Cytomel, hits me like a rocket blasting off during an earthquake.

Ask your Dr about Lithium Orotate usually in very small amounts 5 mg - every other day at night. Needs to be away from thyroid med. Its good for real high anziety days. Its an element we all need and get through the dirt.

NOT to be confused with the other high potent Lithium (non - orotate) for major mental issues. There were several posts on this here, Georgia Hunter knew a lot about it.

LD and hypo symptoms overlap so much that it is hard to know which is which!

NEEDY! Yep that's me. Rather it's on/off for me at this stage. Earlier this year I had to have someone with me constantly or I was a mess. My kids would come in my room to keep me company when they were home. I would cling to my husband in the am when he was trying to get out of bed to go to work.

It's not as bad now, but boy, was I a mess! There are still mornings where I do ask hubby to lay with me a little longer. I really dislike being needy. This has never been my MO.

Sissy63 like you I would fly anywhere, drive anywhere, do anything by myself. Planes now frighten me. I have absolutely no idea why. I used to love to fly.

But things are definitely improving. I just have to take it one day at a time.

Oh what has really helped with my anxiety is supporting my adrenals. I've been doing this for about 6 weeks now and I do feel the difference.