Candida die off? Help :(

Hi gabybee, I just wanted to let you know that a lot of what you are dealing with can be herx. I am not all that familiar with candida, but on the second page of the "new to lyme" there is a lot of information about candida that may help.

One thing that I do for the brain fog and "whooshing" is to use burbur and pinella. For the fatigue I have found that eleuthero has done wonders. These might be worth a try for you especially since you need to study for university.

Keep up the detox. Add more if what you are doing isn't working. Using 6-8 detox methods a day is common.

Whatever you do, don't give up. You are too young and have so much life ahead of you! You can beat this, it just takes time.

My thoughts are with you and I will say a little prayer for you!

gabybee, have you addressed the dietary area of candida and made some adjustments? That would help you out considerably, if you could start eliminating yeast containing foods, sugars, glutens...that sort of thing?


Your herxing reactions may also be from the additional dosage. Is there anyway you could back the grapefruit seed extract and caprylic acid dosages down a bit?

I'm sorry you're having to deal with this, certainly is no fun. But you'll get better, like astroman said. Hang in there hun!

ETA: If you decide to add any more herbal remedies, remember one at a time and start with very low dose until you feel you can handle it and can move up on it.

Randy, do you do oil pulling with the coconut oil? I have a jar, but have only used it in cooking. I've kept it in the refrigerator because it got pretty hot in here this summer. So of course it's completely solid.

I would have to melt some in the microwave to 'swoosh' it. Do you advise trying it? I don't have oral thrush at all, but I'm wanting to try it to see if I feel any better.

Girlie said...
julymorning - I was doing oil pulling with coconut oil for awhile...I'm thinking of starting again.

Just make sure you spit it out and not swallow afterward...into the garbage...it can clog the sink.

I think if I try it again, I may put drops of tea tree oil in it this time...

Thanks girlie! I mean, I might as well, since I have it already. Right after I got the jar I saw a video claiming pulling wheat grass juice was more beneficial, but I never bought any. That did me a lot of good! LOL.

Hmmm. Do you think adding a couple drops of JK would kill anything hiding out in my mouth?

Hi all,

Yes I do follow an anti-candida diet, I woke up this morning feeling much better after I took a break from my antifungals. Today I am going to an IV therapy clinic so hopefully the nutrients and flush will help me detox. Thanks for your help.

gabybee said...
Hi all,

I began a new regimen of anti-candida products as recommended by my doctor. I upped my nystatin from 2 pills 2x daily to 3x daily as well as added in grapefruit seed extract and caprylic acid. Now my head gets a whooshing sound in it and I've had really bad brain fog and fatigue.

I have been detoxing as much as possible but it doesn't seem to be helping (I have MTHFR). I had no idea these antifungals could be this strong. I feel like I'm going crazy and my poor partner just listened to me as I cried for three hours about my health problems. Sometimes everything just gets to me, especially when I can't do my homework for university because I feel like there is something wrong with me developmentally.

Not to sound morbid but I really just want to give up on life sometimes. I turned 21 a few months ago and I feel like I can't bear the pain anymore. Whenever I get these thoughts it is usually indicative of a herx but right now I feel like it's inescapable. My herxes always last for too long anyway.

If someone can help me I would greatly appreciate it.

Gabybee I was going to suggest backing down on some of your Candida fighting products (seems as though you've already done that). One huge and essential thing that a lot of people miss out on is using molybdenum to remove the acetaldehyde candida toxins create.

Start slow on the molybdenum. I typically use 100mcg at a time. You have to see how much you need, but a dose could go up to 300mcg or higher.

www.tiredoflyme.com/candida.html

Tip 3. Be Wary And Prepared For Candida Die Off

When conditions in the body are created that become unfavorable for candida overgrowth, candida will begin to die and, just like the Lyme bacteria, cause a herxheimer reaction and further worsen symptoms as more cytokines are created to deal with toxins candida releases -- some 70-80 different toxins. It's important to note that before a person subjects themselves to more die off, the body's detoxification channels should be greatly supported so toxins generated from a candida die are expelled in an efficient manner and don't linger around contributing to more symptoms.

There are two specific toxins that candida release in larger amounts during a die off and these are ammonia and ethanol. People who are dealing with a CBS gene mutation should taken extra precaution during a candida die off because they'll be contributing to more ammonia in their body, as well as further depleting their molybdenum supply as these acetaldehyde candida toxins can only be detoxified from the body with molybdenum. Excess sulfur results as the byproduct of a CBS gene mutation and the body uses up its molybdenum supply in order to reduce the sulfur. Taking both molybdenum to remove the acetaldehyde candida toxins, and L-ornithine for candida generated ammonia, can help reduce the effects of a candida die off.

Thanks julymorning. My hope is that we all strive for it.

****** update

After lots of aches and pains and heavy breathing and brain fog I had decided to keep doing research on candida and decided to take some milk thistle I forgot I had. the results were tremendous and I have been relieved (for the most part) from my physical symptoms.