Could change in diet cause herx/die off?

I recently changed my diet about 4 days ago. I am trying to eat high lysine and low arginine foods. For those of you who have read Dr. Jernigan's book, I am eating this way temporarily while I attempt to reduce possible ammonia toxicity... Arginine + ammonia + manganese = nitric oxide and ammonia toxicity equals excess nitric oxide.

Dr. J also says that arginine feeds viruses, I am not aware of any viruses that I may have but obviously it's always a possibility with anyone.

I am experiencing worsening of joint pain and my ankle has been throbbing for days, I am also way more tired than usual. I have been struggling with chronic fatigue for quite some time, but this tiredness is something else! I can hardly get out of bed :( and some nights when I'm trying to fall asleep, my whole body aches, it's horrible.

Hopefully this is what I think it is and only lasts a couple of weeks...

Thanks july, do you know if parasites and/or bacteria feed off of arginine as well? I'm currently doing nothing else to treat Lyme ATM. I couldn't handle the intensity of my herxes even when I was taking the bare minimum, so I am waiting on some of the Jernigan products that I just ordered.

I do have candida but I am taking things slow right now. Ideally I'd like to use Jernigan's products for that as well, I'd just like to see if the neuro antitox and borreligen work first.

KLWX,

What ARE you eating? I do the candida based diet and I remember feeling that way when I began it. Candida die off can be as bad as Lyme herxes. Coconut oil can do that but after a bit your feel better. I was taking in high quantities. You need a very good probiotic and SF722 helps a bit as does molybenum.

If you used to eat a lot of sugar/carbs that can be the reason for the extra exhaustion - which should subside in three weeks time.

The diet is so worth it. I hope you continue.

Green tea, which is also good for lyme, helps with fatigue. I use Rishi brand. Others are too bitter and would hurt my stomach. Many have contaminants as well. I also take Eluethero which has helped my fatigue 100% - I barely have it at all. Good luck.

I am on a Paleo based diet which includes fruit, which I have been doing for about 6 months straight now but on and off for an additional 6 months before that.

All I did to my diet was modify it to include fruits and veggies which have a higher lysine content, I still eat the same amount of meat and protein, and I eat small amounts of dairy. I'm about 90% organic and 90% hormone free/antibiotic free.

Thanks Huddie, I do have some green tea in my cupboard that I could give a try...

Traveler, I am not quite anti-candida, as I still eat a fair amount of fruit, I do plan to do this diet in the future. Main problem is that I am trying to get off of a medication that causes weight gain and cravings right now.

My boyfriends does get cold sore out breaks a couple of times a years but he always refrains from kissing me when it happens. I've never had one but I always thought that it could be possible that I have it as well but my body just doesn't "express" the virus in that way.

I am on Remeron, it was beneficial at first! But be careful because it does cause cravings and that has proved to be my number one problem with the med because it is hard to stick to a clean diet.

Yes, I hope that when I quit the fruit I will see improvements... Although I don't think I will eliminate it 100%, need my vitamins lol