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Posted 12/13/2016 3:11 PM (GMT 0)
I currently have a 30 day supply of Doxy 100mg, which I am supposed to take twice a day. I'm thinking of doing one of two things:

1) double up on the doxy and then start the Buhner herbs after that? (will two weeks of doxy even matter?)

or

2) Order a second abx online to take with the doxy? And then add the herbs after a month of 2 abx? (which abx is recommended to take with doxy for chronic/neuro lyme?)

Trying to figure out this self-treatment thing; it's all so confusing.
I will not spend another dime on a doctor or a bloodtest until I am 100% comfortable with the doctor and their protocol. (The one that I am now thinking of going to is a lot of money and has a 3-6month wait list.)

Thanks in advance.
Posted 12/13/2016 3:15 PM (GMT 0)
It is a tough decision to work on your own.
If LLMD is not an option, I don't know if it is wise to take abx by yourself. Maybe in that case it is better to start only herbal protocol.
Posted 12/13/2016 3:17 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, two weeks of Doxy would make a difference - but it would have to be at 300 - 400 mgs a day.

I would assume that adding a second abx would be better (as monotherapy is never really a good thing for these infections) but I don't know enough about abx to be of any help, other than suggesting Minocycline, as it crosses the blood-brain barrier better than most from what I understand.

I'm sure others with much more experience with abx will be along shortly to help you figure this out though!
Posted 12/13/2016 3:26 PM (GMT 0)

Traveler said...
Yes, two weeks of Doxy would make a difference - but it would have to be at 300 - 400 mgs a day.

I would assume that adding a second abx would be better (as monotherapy is never really a good thing for these infections) but I don't know enough about abx to be of any help, other than suggesting Minocycline, as it crosses the blood-brain barrier better than most from what I understand.

I'm sure others with much more experience with abx will be along shortly to help you figure this out though!

So, two weeks of 400mg doxy and other supplements would be okay until my herbs come? And then just transition to herbs?

I just feel like taking 100mg doxy twice a day is stupid at this point and won't help. I'd rather double up and at least get something from it!
Posted 12/13/2016 3:28 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, 100 mgs a day is of no use. But, at 400 mgs I would assume that it would still be helpful - but as I said, I'm not that knowledgeable on abx.

And yes, it would be a good idea to treat while you are waiting for the herbs to arrive. Don't forget the detoxing too though! wink
Posted 12/13/2016 3:49 PM (GMT 0)
Doxy alone tends to push spiro's into cyst form. Adding something to bust up cysts like Tindamax pulsed two days a week; or Plaquenil or Diflucan may be milder at this stage of your treatment. Also add GSE that will help with cysts as well as candida.
Posted 12/13/2016 5:07 PM (GMT 0)

tickbite666 said...
Doxy alone tends to push spiro's into cyst form. Adding something to bust up cysts like Tindamax pulsed two days a week; or Plaquenil or Diflucan may be milder at this stage of your treatment. Also add GSE that will help with cysts as well as candida.

How much Tindamax (or Plaquenil or Diflucan)?

Would GSE alone work with the Doxy? What brand do you recommend?
Posted 12/13/2016 5:46 PM (GMT 0)
Tindamax : (2) 500mg tablets once a day. Start slow maybe try (1) then wait a few days. I took mine on Monday and Tuesday evenings.

Diflucan: (1) 200 mg tablet once a day. I would take it for 30 days then take a break.

Plaquenil: (1) 200 mg tablet twice a day.

For GSE I buy NutriBiotic brand

Its important to monitor your liver enzymes (ALT and AST) at least once a month with multiple ABX.

Post Edited (tickbite666) : 12/13/2016 10:49:47 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/13/2016 5:56 PM (GMT 0)

tickbite666 said...
Doxy alone tends to push spiro's into cyst form. Adding something to bust up cysts like Tindamax pulsed two days a week; or Plaquenil or Diflucan may be milder at this stage of your treatment. Also add GSE that will help with cysts as well as candida.

This is very true. It's what happened to me, and my doctor was treating me mono on doxy.

I want to forewarn you, Doxycylcine can deliever a heck of a punch that will possibly put you in worse shape than you are now. Make sure you have an arsenal of detoxing agents at hand, as well as good probiotics.

I want to advise you to not start with the full dose of it all, but ease into the doxy and the rest gradually. Others might not agree with me, but I went through it and if I wasn't convinced I was dying, I wished that I would.

Include a binder such as charcoal tabs or bentonite clay to help flush dead toxins out of you...to be taken two hours after and two hours before anything else oral that you don't want to have moved out, including food.
Posted 12/13/2016 6:19 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you, July. Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. Were you on low dose doxy at the time? I've been on it for 4 full days and haven't noticed anything. I may just double up on one dose for a week and see what happens. And I'm bumping up all of my detoxing....thanks!!

Sorry all, my mind is all over the place but nowhere at the same time lol
Posted 12/13/2016 6:51 PM (GMT 0)
Often a macrolide is combined with doxy (azithromycin or biaxin)

I wouldn't combine mino with it...(both tetracyclines)

...and I would get up to 200 mg twice daily of the doxy (you can start slow and build to that)
Posted 12/13/2016 7:06 PM (GMT 0)
I was prescribed 2 100 mg pills twice a day. I think it probably took a good week before the herxing started.


Although my Dr. was an Internist, he actually called an LLMD in my State for a dosage recommendation. He made the phone call right in front of me, and he printed off the LLMD's abx protocol sheet to give me.

Post Edited (julymorning) : 12/13/2016 12:09:05 PM (GMT-7)

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