Lymes and teeth

A lot of the time when you have a root canal or wisdom tooth pulled-because of the deep roots, you can develop cavitations. The bone doesn't heal like it's supposed to, or you have a dry socket with a pulled wisdom tooth. Bacteria head for the area and set up camp. Borrelia spirochettes in this case. We may, or may not already have them in our mouth tissues. They cause constant inflammation and infection.

There are many articles about how this happens, and how you can try to fix it Here's one person's story, although pathology neglected to identify the pathogens for Lyme.

betterhealthguy.com/cavitation

Big topic and opinions certain very on this one.
Dr. Mercola as a great websight you may go there and read on this topic.
I have worked with Dr Rau in Switzerland and another Doc in St Louis both of which think root canals and dental issues can and often are the major issue. Many other docs in the world start with dental and always remove root canals-whether you have lyme or cancer or autoimmune.
I agree with them-google electron microscope and teeth and you can see who the teeth are porous and what keeps it healthy is blood flow (immune system) coming in through the root. Do a root canal and nothing flows into the porous tooth-creating a great environment for bacteria-fungus and protozoa. Over time this can run down your immune system and spread sickness. Much like smoking some people can handle a root canal for many many years-if you are on this chat board I doubt you are one. You shouldn't smoke either-even though we all know one old 90 year old who smoked his entire life

Other docs think the jaw is mechanical and have zero affect on the rest of your body. Although the knee surgeons and heart doctors are not included. FYI there are many studies showing the jaw bacteria does have influence on rest of body.

My experience is I cured my terrible IBS by cleaning out a major infection that my traditional dds missed and many other docs never bothered to check-My weight was down to the 140s and today 200-no meds just fixed dental cavitation.

Some docs actually think lyme is really a dental spirochete-I have no clue but see people get remarkably better when they pull out root canals and metals from mouth. FYI there is a small study that shows the average immune system doubling after the metal is removed from mouth. Often time chronic disease people have root canals or breast implants-removing them can have dramatic positive health effects.

One last thing-tradition dds are not good at finding or treating bone infections-don't waste your time or money-see a biological dds. He-she should treat these bones infections weekly in his practice-if they do root canals and metal just go elsewhere

Also note the lyme summits many docs talk about root canals and dental issues.

Good luck-the body heals

Post Edited (magoo2) : 12/17/2016 3:45:27 AM (GMT-7)

Let us know how it goes

Peteza- a root canal is a dead tooth and a place where bacteria live and thrive and it spreads inflammation throughout the body. I'm not sure what other dead body part you would leave in your body?
Mercola's web sight is a great place to read about it. There are many docs that approach lyme this way.

My opinion doesn't really line up with yours. I would only see a biological dds. Docs that place root canals make good money for an easy procedure one where the health effects show up years later-like selling cigarettes. There is plenty of research on root canals and dental materials causing ill health. Dr. Voll 80 years ago concluded 80% of chronic illness is caused in jaw-there are many other studies. Are his numbers right-I don't know but treating my jaw saved my life and many others-including other lyme docs

Hey I get it-I'm not a fan of dental work but I am less of a fan of living a life that is a fraction of what it should be. Treating dental has got me 75% back-its worth seeing a biological dds-at least for a checkup

Post Edited (magoo2) : 12/17/2016 11:48:24 AM (GMT-7)

I'm pretty much in line with Magoo's feelings on this. I have never seen a Biological dentist, and wish I had. I lost my teeth at an early age (upper denture by age 23, lower denture by age 32) because my teeth were just falling apart (cracked/broken), infected/abscessing, and so on. Each and every dentist I saw though, commented on how healthy my gums were, because that level of decay in the teeth usually means gum disease as well, yet I've never had gum disease even once.

Had I seen a Biological dentist, I may have been able to save at least some of my teeth, but now I'm only trying to save my jaw bones. They are disintegrating now. I have some control over it by oil puling with tea tree oil (15 drops) every night. I know that it's at least keeping the inflammation down, which keeps the pain lower.

Lyme is known to affect teeth, and Bart is known to affect the jaw bones, but I serious doubt if it's been investigated about Lyme affecting the jaw bones and Bart affecting the teeth(being pessimistic).

Here is a pretty good article about Lyme and the mouth:
www.arizonaadvancedmedicine.com/Articles/2013/June/Lyme-disease-often-resides-in-the-mouth.aspx

I have two root canals, caused a heap of problems when I got them. I felt the actual procedure, hurt so bad! Traumatized me for life. It started out with one root canal for a cracked tooth and a crown on the adjacent tooth for the same reason. Of course the crown irritated the tooth so much I had to get that one done as well. After the extremely painful second one, the dentist got gunshy so he didn't clear it out. I got a really painful infection in that tooth and had to go back to get it redone by another dentist. He put "new" material to fill that tooth which caused pain for months. I finally went to a specialist to have it redone again at a place that would sedate me while they did it. That dentist was able to go after that first practice (father and son dentists) and get me my money back for the horrendous job they did.
My problem is I have often pondered getting them out but they are molars side by side. If I get those two out, my teeth will shift quite badly (I've had braces twice so I really don't want that to happen). Plus I would have a gaping hole on one side of my mouth.

Girlie said...
ChickNorris - Can't you get a bridge for those two teeth...held on by adjacent teeth.


They wouldn't leave you with a gaping hole where the two teeth were.

I suppose. I would just wonder at the effectiveness of removing the metal and replacing it with more. My mouth has a mild allergic reaction to the metals in my crowns but even though I had all that work done years and years ago, I'm very nervous to have anything done at all.

What a great subject! I had any root canals removed by default (remaining teeth fell out). All that remain are some implants (now removed). A few months ago as I was discovering that I have Lyme symptoms that are too specific to be coincidental or my mind playing tricks on me. I am not one to normally be concerned with having an illness unless I have major symptoms so I am going to rule out any chance of myself being delusional or hypochondriac.

I have come to listen to my body well and trust my instincts otherwise I am certain I would have been blinded by the fungal and yeast infection that I was plagued with but only feel I recently resolved completely or near complete.

I am not currently showing any indication of fungal infection anymore so I attribute much of the itch to a different parasite (or possibly bacteria) as it seems more likely than continued fungal infection. Although I used the Ketaconazole shampoo the other day just to see if it would quell the itch and I recently re-added intermittent doses of Fluconazole weekly.

But this topic is teeth and I digress.

As far as teeth go, just a few months ago as I was going through all this, I noticed blackness around the base of one of my four remaining actual teeth which were located on the lower jaw in the front of my mouth.

I had one of these teeth removed and another broke off. All appeared to have rotted from the inside out.

I still have some issues of skin inside my mouth either becoming leathery as skin dies and rebuilds. There are ongoing skin changes and gum irritations which are minor and resolve.

So apparently there is something still going on. I am hoping the mimosa pudica may resolve this as I am reluctant to go on another couse of Doxycycline as I do not want to drive any bacteria into my brain.

Doubling my concern of spirochete in brain, is the fairly recent occurrence of the unmistakable ice pick headache which I now know to be a Lyme specific symptom thanks to you guys sharing, I am now confident that I am dealing with Lyme.

When I joined the group I was actually in Lyme denial. I would not have been able to ascertain as much as I have without this community's willingness to share.

So the answer to an infected tooth is to remove it. But isn't this the cause of many cavitations?

See that is what I am concerned with. You are alleviating one problem but potentially causing another.

I am totally in agreement with a biological dentist. They are not easy to find in my area. I am going to travel about an hour and a half to see one. But, I honestly believe that this is the best dentist.

I just don't know that much about correcting a root canal that has already been done and has existed there for years with no problem. Now you have lyme and you remove that tooth and I just have seen too many owies get filled with lyme once a person has lyme.

I am not in disagreement with you at all. I just don't understand the procedures.

My total dislike in a toothpaste is Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS). Here is why.

Many toothpastes contain surfactants like sodium lauryl sulfate, sodium laureth sulfate (SLS), or sodium lauryl ether sulfate (SLES). Surfactants are chemicals responsible for the foaming action of the toothpaste, but they also interfere with the functioning of your taste buds by breaking up the phospholipids on your tongue.

This enhances bitter tastes and is thought to be the reason why everything tastes so bad right after you've brushed your teeth.

Not to mention, SLS has even been linked to skin irritation and painful canker sores, with research suggesting an SLS-free toothpaste should be used for people with recurring sores.

However, one of the main problems with SLS is that the manufacturing process (ethoxylation) results in it being potentially contaminated with 1,4 dioxane, a carcinogenic byproduct. The manufacturing process also releases carcinogenic volatile organic compounds into the environment.

SLS is also registered as an insecticide and may have toxic effects to marine life, including fish, insects, and crustaceans.

The manufacturers actually tried to get approval to market SLS as a pesticide for organic farmers, but the application was denied because of its potential for environmental damage.

My question is in regards to a root canal that has been done years ago and is giving you no problems.

Do you suggest having that tooth pulled now?

Thanks Magoo!