Dairy

I don't know what kazesine is.

Do you mean casein?

I believe Traveler does take some goat milk products...I'm sure she will be on to post.


I take cow's milk kefir.

I also do eat a bit of cheese...and a splash of milk to 'wet' my oats.

I don't react to it.

Casein, from what I've read, causes inflammation. it also can cause problems with abx absorbtion, if you're taking them.

There are other arguments against animal milk that involve current beliefs of it's contamination from gmo grain feeding the animals, but their products are safer in that regard if grass fed.

Some advocate using unpasturized, but there have been many reports of illnesses noteworthy of warnings against using unpasturized milk.

IMO, this is one of those things you might want to experiment with, but you have to go without any for a certain period of time to see if you feel better, and experiment with various forms.

Goat's milk and it's products and kefir are the exclusions to the no dairy rule for many. They have been for me since I began treating per my LLND. I tried some cow's milk yogurt and that was a no go.

They still leave it our of a paleo or whole30 diet, its also not natural for humans to consume any milk as adults. Its left out since its also a know inflamitory. It (cow, goat and sheep milk) being inflamitory is the reason I commented here. Even if you feel fine, might not be good for your gut anyway. They mention unsweetened (no sugar real or fake) almond milk for a substitute..

Whey isolate powder is easier to digest than regular Whey protien, but both come from milk. You can find further info on body building/fitness forums, since body builders take a lot of protien by itself and there is always the issues of gas with direct protien (not to comfortable stomach either).

If time allows, a protien meal with fiber is easier to digest.

As far as lyme diets, you can make it a strict as you want bepending on what is easy or not easy to digest )less inflamitory for you) and at the same time making the candida posibility least likely to occure.

jrpsf said...
..I felt like Fireworks and sirens were going off since it felt like I'd hit the easy treat jackpot!

this made me giggle...sometimes we feel 'deprived' when we're on a really strict diet...

You can eat butter =D.

blueberrymuffin said...
I thought about taking goats yogurt and cows kefir just because I don't have sufficient protein intake - I feel nausea when I eat meat, so I thought maybe this would be beneficial to add.

Try some and see how you feel. If you don't have any negative effects they can be great additions to your diet and great sources of protein.

I eat goat hard cheese for the calcium and butter.
After stopping everything else my main positive was massive reduction of mucus and I never get stuffy nose.
Also skin clears especially on the back.

blueberrymuffin said...
yes I tried quinoa, and I use it sometimes. thank you

well, I guess I will add goats yogurt to my diet. I am not sure about cows kefir, because it's cows and it has more casein than goat products.

I hope it will not affect me in a negative way.

But I feel that I need to eat more, and all of the food that I eat - healthy food - is not easily digestible. It is a big problem for me, as stomach issues are one of my strongest Lyme symptoms.

I know what you mean. Do you steam any of your vegetables? Or sautee them? It helps to break them down a little easier this way. And of course chew thoroughly! lol

I pan stir-frying veggies on low with olive oil, sea salt and garlic powder.. Cut up mini-sweet peppers (not hot at all) and onions are scrumptious this way - cut up celery too is more tasty this way vs the raw "bark" taste LOL.

I found the milk issues in cow yogurt to easily override what few (low) probiotic benefits are in it. Just another marketing scheme for the dairy industry as more people are aware of its highly inflammatory proprieties. Cow store bought yogurt NEVER made meal digestion easier for me, just the opposite was true, how bogus. Bloating , gas ect. No longer the case without dairy.

Almond milk , unsweetened, is my milk today. Soy milk is mucousy and not good for you anyway, a vegetarian invention disaster for the human body.

I could die for a tasty pizza. I will have to slowly experiment with goat cheese in an introductory "experiment" in the future.

astroman said...
I pan stir-frying veggies on low with olive oil, sea salt and garlic powder.. Cut up mini-sweet peppers (not hot at all) and onions are scrumptious this way - cut up celery too is more tasty this way vs the raw "bark" taste LOL.

I found the milk issues in cow yogurt to easily override what few (low) probiotic benefits are in it. Just another marketing scheme for the dairy industry as more people are aware of its highly inflammatory proprieties. Cow store bought yogurt NEVER made meal digestion easier for me, just the opposite was true, how bogus. Bloating , gas ect. No longer the case without dairy.

Almond milk , unsweetened, is my milk today. Soy milk is mucousy and not good for you anyway, a vegetarian invention disaster for the human body.

I could die for a tasty pizza. I will have to slowly experiment with goat cheese in an introductory "experiment" in the future.

I have seen some very tempting looking pizza 'crusts' made from roasted cauliflower. This morning on The Kitchen someone prepared a fried rice with cauliflower sent through the food processor until reduced to fine 'grains'.

I keep bringing cauliflower home to try some of these, but as soon as I do I can't stop myself from making a cheese sauce for it, or covering it roasted with shaved Parmegiano.

I must have been a mouse in a past life. I love it more than chocolate.