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Posted 1/5/2017 3:34 PM (GMT 0)
Can you have a herxes without even taking antimicrobials? I started on Beyond Balance MC BFM 1 and IMNV iii. These are for biofilms and immunity. Maybe it's because they have some antimicrobial properties event thought thats not their main intention??

I am definitely reacting to them...increased foot and shin pain and bone pain in general. Also a visual migraine. It has only been two days....
Posted 1/5/2017 3:36 PM (GMT 0)
I just posted this on your other thread, but I wanted you to see it, so here it is again:

Well, you shouldn't be taking a biofilm buster without being in treatment for the bacteria/viruses that you are releasing. I made the mistake of not being in treatment for everything that was contained in my bioflilms and had to stop everything due to the serious increase in symptoms in order to bring my symptoms back under control.
Posted 1/5/2017 3:48 PM (GMT 0)
ah...interesting....well, the dr also gave me Byron White RMSF (rocky mtn spotted fever) and also BW AFNG (for fungus). I was waiting to take them...wanted to take one thing at a time to see how I felt! But here's the thing...of course I don't only have rocky mountain spotted fever...I also have lyme (definitely) and probably bart (shin and foot pain). This set of test only came up positive for the rmsf, so I suppose that's why she is treating that one....of course=, because it is herbal it will probably kill a bunch of stuff, but I hope it will be enough based on what you are saying....

I hope that made sense ;)
Posted 1/5/2017 3:52 PM (GMT 0)
Also, Traveler, I see you had RMSF also...

What are the specific symptoms for that? I can't find that info anywhere. When I google it they say it causes a rash all over your body and if not caught early causes death! Clearly, this is not the case!
Posted 1/5/2017 3:57 PM (GMT 0)
Well, the RMSF may be what's showing up the most right now as it's the infection that is the most 'dominate' at the moment. The other infections may be taking a 'second seat' to the RMSF. I hope that made sense!! LOL!

But, if you are not treating for what's coming out of those biofilms, then I know that they are being 'released' into your body and doing their thing, without any interference, rather than being 'safely' tucked away, where they can't do much harm during the time they are in those biofilms.

And even with herbs, the treatments are generally fairly targeted, and although they may raise the immune system to help fight the infection(s) - the herbs are more targeted for the one specific infection. Generally speaking. I don't know all the ins and outs of Beyond Balance, and they don't list their ingredients anywhere that I have come across yet, so it's hard to say for sure.

A call to your doc to help clear this up as to what you should be taking with what may be in order.
Posted 1/5/2017 3:59 PM (GMT 0)
My wife is taking IMNV for dealing with active EBV. look at the ingredients it definitely has stuff that kills microbes.

all of the stuff you're taking are herbal concoctions so they are bound to effect you in different ways.
Posted 1/5/2017 4:59 PM (GMT 0)
yes, well I forgot to mention that I ALSO have active EBV and active mycoplasma. Rikky1, are you still seeing the same DR M in ny that we discussed. Does your wife go there also>
Posted 1/5/2017 5:18 PM (GMT 0)
Cheryl,

Hi. I'm sorry you are going through this. I don't have a lot to offer since I'm still learning myself but I want to send support and hugs your way.

Trav, I LEARN so much from you. It was fascinating how you explained about cos, lyme, biofilm, etc... Thank you.

I'm telling you you should write the 'Lyme for Dummies' bible. I need one!

Cheryl, I take a lot of immune support supplements and I just got blood work back and my EBV is down (it was pretty high), which I was pretty shocked over. Thyroid numbers were all good too. What wasn't good is the hemoglobin (glucose) but you can't have everything.

I take Sun Warrior Immune Shield Gold, Invision Silver 100 and I-Lysine (for EBV).

Feel better!
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