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Posted 2/27/2017 6:42 PM (GMT 0)
So looking back on my test I had a western blot and two positive bands,
Img P41 and Img P23. Symptoms are anxiety, depression, terrible sleep, just feel icky, nauseous ( not like I'm gonna throw up ), constipation, socially closed off. No stiffness of joints. Had some upper middle back pain initially but gone now.
Was miss diagnosed for 8 months then got tested with LLMD which is when I got the western blot.

Can anyone interpret my test??? I'm starting the Buhner protocol, I definitely don't know as much as I need to know about this result. Anything specific I need to do for those bands??????

Thx
Posted 2/27/2017 7:33 PM (GMT 0)
This is one site I use for interpretation of bands -- www.reocities.com/HotSprings/Oasis/6455/western-blot.txt

Here is what is posted in the New To Lyme thread:

Quoting Ticker (a former Moderator here):

Western Blot Bands description:

9 cross-reactive for Borrellia
12 specific for Bb
18 unknown
20 cross-reactive for Borrellia
21 unknown
22 cross reactive with other spirochetes/bacteria
23-25 outer surface protein C (OspC), specific for Bb(Lyme)
28 outer surface protein D (OspD), specific for Bb
30 outer surface protein A (OspA) (common in European and
one California strain?)
31 outer surface protein A (OspA), specific for Bb
34 outer surface protein B (OspB); specific for Bb
35 specific for Bb
37 specific for Bb
38
39 Bacterial membrane protein A (BmpA); specific for Bb
41 flagellin protein of all spirochetes; this is usually the first to appear after a Bb infection and is specific for all Borrellia
45 cross-reactive for all Borellia (sometimes people with Lyme who have
this band positive also have the co-infection Ehrlichiosis)
50 cross-reactive for all Borrellia
55 cross-reactive for all Borrellia
57 cross-reactive for all Borrellia
58 unknown but may be a heat-shock Bb protein
60 cross reactive for all Borrellia
66 cross-reactive for all Borrelia, common in all bacteria
83 specific antigen for the Lyme bacterium, probably a cytoplasmic membrane- specific for Bb
93 an immunodominant protoplasmic cylinder antigen associated with the flagellin. Specific to Bb.


Some of the above information may or may not be correct. I have located another source for understanding the bands of the Western Blot here - www.oocities.org/hotsprings/oasis/6455/western-blot.txt , which indicates that band 23 is not Lyme specific, and there may be other differences.

You will notice that there is a difference in interpretations. And, we don't treat according to the bands. We just treat.

If there was a perfect way to treat lyme, we would all be doing the same thing. It is really is a guinea pig game and we all guess a lot. When something doesn't work, we pull up our boot straps and try the next thing.
Posted 2/27/2017 7:40 PM (GMT 0)
What PeteZa said is too true.

The tests are so unreliable to start with, and symptoms will change in you. Did you take any antibiotics at all since this test was taken? I see you're starting the Buhner protocol...go easy adding the herbs in, keep up with good de-toxing, be mindful of what you eat and try to avoid stress as well as over activity.
Posted 2/27/2017 7:59 PM (GMT 0)
I've never done any antibiotics. Did knowmuch at beginning just Doc was more in favor of trying natural route. From what I've read Antibiotics help if you catch it immediately. I was misdiagnosed for 8 months.
Posted 2/27/2017 8:01 PM (GMT 0)
Drez, that is what I have read also.
Posted 2/27/2017 8:05 PM (GMT 0)

Drez said...
I've never done any antibiotics. Did knowmuch at beginning just Doc was more in favor of trying natural route. From what I've read Antibiotics help if you catch it immediately. I was misdiagnosed for 8 months.


That's true Drez. I know that personally.

If you are concentrating on Buhner's core protocol, and have his 2nd edition book, look over his section on extended repertory and see which herbs he suggests adding in later for your specific symptoms.

You want to ease into all of these herbs slowly to avoid huge herx reactions, plus you want to be able to know which herb you're reacting badly to, in order to know which to back down on. Can't do that if you start everything at once.

Let us know if you need more explanation on doing this.
Posted 2/27/2017 8:13 PM (GMT 0)

julymorning said...

Drez said...
I've never done any antibiotics. Did knowmuch at beginning just Doc was more in favor of trying natural route. From what I've read Antibiotics help if you catch it immediately. I was misdiagnosed for 8 months.


That's true Drez. I know that personally.

If you are concentrating on Buhner's core protocol, and have his 2nd edition book, look over his section on extended repertory and see which herbs he suggests adding in later for your specific symptoms.

You want to ease into all of these herbs slowly to avoid huge herx reactions, plus you want to be able to know which herb you're reacting badly to, in order to know which to back down on. Can't do that if you start everything at once.

Let us know if you need more explanation on doing this.

Thanks. My problem ever since Christmas time is I feel bad 85%-90% of the time. I can't tell if I am herxing or what? I just started Japanese Knotweed ( pills from Dragon Botanicals ) 6 days ago. I'm doing 1 pill x 3 times daily. Getting ready to add in Cats Claw ( pills from DB ) tomorrow.

How can you truly tell if you herxing or the new herb does not work for your body?????
Posted 2/27/2017 8:24 PM (GMT 0)
Positive IgM 23 and 41 is CDC positive - (on Igenex test results sheet)

so not much interpretation needed.
Posted 2/27/2017 8:27 PM (GMT 0)

Drez said...
I've never done any antibiotics. Did knowmuch at beginning just Doc was more in favor of trying natural route. From what I've read Antibiotics help if you catch it immediately. I was misdiagnosed for 8 months.

They work for chronic Lyme, too.

The choice is yours.
Posted 2/27/2017 9:03 PM (GMT 0)
Are you detoxing much, Drez? That will be a critical part of your healing most likely. It will also lower the severity of your symptoms.

If, once you add in the Cat's claw, your symptoms increase again, then stop the cat's claw and increase the amount of detoxing you are doing for a few days before trying the cat's claw again.
Posted 2/27/2017 9:07 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you, that is what I will do.
Posted 2/27/2017 9:27 PM (GMT 0)
Be sure to let us know how you are doing and if you have any questions!
Best of luck too!
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