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Posted 3/1/2017 6:27 AM (GMT 0)
I never had joint swelling pre-Lyme diagnosis. I had GREAT knees. Everyone in my family had knee problems starting in their 30's, but I was fine and I used to wear stilettos! Now, 3 months into treatment (mostly herbal) my knees are like those of an 80-year-old. Tonight, my right wrist joint is red and swollen.

1. Is this herx or just run of the mill lyme? I still can't tell the difference.
2. I want to avoid long term damage. Any tips?

I already take Boswellia and collagen daily. Just took an epsom bath and they still hurt. My knees are on fire. I also noticed my toe knuckles were red today sad
Posted 3/1/2017 3:19 PM (GMT 0)
I used ice on mine and that was my relief. My orthopedist insists on ice. He says most joint pain is inflammation. He says inflammation causes pain. And, his way to relieve joint pain is to ice it so the inflammation goes away.

When my knees were really hurting the ice was only temporary relief but that was better than nothing.

I also use Sports Gel. Homeopathic med -- www.vitacost.com/boericke-tafel-sports-gel?csrc=PPCADW-&mtp=sm0TUOzwZ-dc|pcrid|166837283959|&gclid=CJGYqa7NtdICFcEbgQodp2gFrQ
Posted 3/1/2017 3:31 PM (GMT 0)

PeteZa said...
I used ice on mine and that was my relief. My orthopedist insists on ice. He says most joint pain is inflammation. He says inflammation causes pain. And, his way to relieve joint pain is to ice it so the inflammation goes away.

When my knees were really hurting the ice was only temporary relief but that was better than nothing.

I also use Sports Gel. Homeopathic med -- www.vitacost.com/boericke-tafel-sports-gel?csrc=PPCADW-&mtp=sm0TUOzwZ-dc|pcrid|166837283959|&gclid=CJGYqa7NtdICFcEbgQodp2gFrQ

LOL. It's always the most obvious things. Thanks for reminding me, PeteZa
Posted 3/1/2017 3:58 PM (GMT 0)
You can also do something for the inflammation, like turmeric - it's really good for reducing inflammation.

It may very well be only a herx, but it may be the run of the mill Lyme. The timing suggests a herx though. So I would encourage you to increase your detoxing as well as including more for inflammation.

Now, the feet on fire could be from Bartonella - but Lyme does produce sore feet as well for some.

If your herbal treatments are mostly Buhner's, I would encourage you to be sure you are including the cytokine remodulation herbs - Salvia miltiorrhiza and Scutellaria baicalensis (1 tsp, 3 times a day).
Posted 3/1/2017 4:08 PM (GMT 0)

KristenBee said...

PeteZa said...
I used ice on mine and that was my relief. My orthopedist insists on ice. He says most joint pain is inflammation. He says inflammation causes pain. And, his way to relieve joint pain is to ice it so the inflammation goes away.

When my knees were really hurting the ice was only temporary relief but that was better than nothing.

I also use Sports Gel. Homeopathic med -- www.vitacost.com/boericke-tafel-sports-gel?csrc=PPCADW-&mtp=sm0TUOzwZ-dc|pcrid|166837283959|&gclid=CJGYqa7NtdICFcEbgQodp2gFrQ

LOL. It's always the most obvious things. Thanks for reminding me, PeteZa

LOL! You are so right on the obvious. I had horrible head pain and hubby reminded me about an ice pack. All be darn, it worked on my head also. I call him Doctor Papa now, as I giggle.
Posted 3/1/2017 4:45 PM (GMT 0)

Traveler said...
You can also do something for the inflammation, like turmeric - it's really good for reducing inflammation.

It may very well be only a herx, but it may be the run of the mill Lyme. The timing suggests a herx though. So I would encourage you to increase your detoxing as well as including more for inflammation.

Now, the feet on fire could be from Bartonella - but Lyme does produce sore feet as well for some.

If your herbal treatments are mostly Buhner's, I would encourage you to be sure you are including the cytokine remodulation herbs - Salvia miltiorrhiza and Scutellaria baicalensis (1 tsp, 3 times a day).

I"m not on Buhner's - it's a hodgepodge of herbs and supplements my LLMD recommended - mostly Byron White. I also don't have a lot of good results with turmeric. I do take it, but it feel like it really only takes the edge off - and I'm on some expensive curcumin supp.
Posted 3/1/2017 10:18 PM (GMT 0)
Hi KristenBee, I'm dealing with similar hell, having pain in knee and foot for almost a year now. Nothing helps besides chemical drugs like meloxicam. Recently I started again taking more natural aniflammatory stuff: turmeric, japanese knotweed, omega3, MSM... to be honest I'm close to losing hope if I ever will heal from that.
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