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Posted 3/6/2017 9:36 AM (GMT 0)
As said in my previous posts I'm having some problems with bartonella and the severe brain/head pressure so forth from treatment and on a very strict diet which is working to stop my gut which begins becoming pained, inflamed and bleeding in the first few weeks of going without it (havemt gone off in months so I'm probably wrong.

Attempting to continue n up treatment as I am becoming less and less inflamed but it is so hard for md to continue and increase houyuttina with alot of the symptoms I have as of the moment feels dangerous.

As I know these( at least some of my ) symptoms could be bartonella vascular inflammation which has been shown on previous ultrasounds to be true in my flare ups ages ago before I startedtreatment, vein constriction n inflammation etc


What can I do to reduce bartonella's attacks n messing with my vascular systems as I feel that's probably my biggest danger (with stroke and brain trauma victims from it's blood vessel tampering )in me increasing treatment as it seems to have no other defense left as of now.

is it a matter of cleansing red blood cells or more and can anyone reccomend any herbal or supplemental treatments to help cleanse/support vascular symptoms from such things.

i have red root not sure if that helps or not
Posted 3/6/2017 3:33 PM (GMT 0)
Red root is for the lymph system, not the vascular system, per se. It helps the vascular system because it cleanses the blood, but that's about all.

So, do you have Crohn's or ulcerative colitis? If so, I'm so sorry!

Head/brain pressure can usually be relieved by taking kudzu root (1/4 - 1/2 tsp of tincture 3 times a day), according to Buhner. I've been using it as well, and it's been helping.
Posted 3/6/2017 3:47 PM (GMT 0)
commandersorebod, are you taking Buhner's core protocol? Or any other herbs besides the Houttuynia?

Getting rid of lyme can rely on many herbs working in unison. This working together makes them all stronger and more powerful. It is just a relationship that they have with one another.

This is why I ask what else you are taking.
Posted 3/6/2017 8:29 PM (GMT 0)
I have a few issues with bleeding etc... My blood tests have varied to show both a clotting risk and then other times a bleeding risk. Buhner talks about red root encouraging clotting alongside its primary use, I'm no expert by any means, it's purely coincidental I was reading exactly that chapter today while researching my own issues! I can't recommend anything as such however I know on the opposite end of the scale alot of other herbs help thin the blood. Japanese knotweed, fish oils, nattokinase and even garlic so maybe have a good look at your supplements for any hidden blood thinners maybe?

I remember having incredible head pressure recently after an injury and I was sure I was bleeding internally due to my risk factor. However antibiotics mainly reversed it. So I think overall addressing the infection should be the primary aim. Though bleeding/clotting is a subject I'm hugely paranoid about.
Posted 3/6/2017 9:54 PM (GMT 0)
I'm really interested in knowing this too. After my last relapse I've been having frightening vascular symptoms. I know dan shen is supposed to be good for vascular health but i'm on the fence about whether it does anything for me at all or not.
Posted 3/6/2017 9:58 PM (GMT 0)
Hawthorne - for heart, blood vessels.

It's part of Buhner's bartonella protocol.

But, I believe it has blood-thinning properties...so not everyone can take it - especially if someone is already on a blood-thinner.
Posted 3/6/2017 9:59 PM (GMT 0)
For head pressure I tried Lion's Mane and cordyceps.

I have no idea which one worked. It was what I read from Buhner and so I tried them both..... maybe it was a combo???
Posted 3/6/2017 10:00 PM (GMT 0)
Here is what else Buhner has to say about it.

buhnerhealinglyme.com/symptoms/frontal-head-pressure-and-tightness/
Posted 3/6/2017 10:04 PM (GMT 0)
In Buhner's 2nd edition of Healing Lyme (which is more up to date), he says to use kudzu root for head pressure.
Posted 3/6/2017 10:08 PM (GMT 0)
Sida is thought to protect the rbc from invasion...on the endothilial lining i found dragons blood to be much more vasoprotective than jk ...

on blood coagulation i have a double whammy low platelets and hypercoagulation (likely both bart )
Where heparin has a short halflife and can cause thrombocytopenia in its own right i have found bee venom to thin the blood very well ..like i almost feel normal on sting days 1yr later ..

My fam was watching that silly scorpion show where they used snake venom as a anticoagulant to save the terminators life ..
Ha

any way i dont know who has a fuctuonal doc but the one in next town over gets iv curcumin from civic pharm in az and uses it for cancer patients but it has been the single most effective thing in calming my vasculitis ...it coats the lining of my catheder a nice curry yellow and only imagine it does the same to my veins ...when i first did it i could feel inflammation in my heart actually physically decrease .

i imagine oral curcumin is better than nothing ...costco has a good one ..something about peper making bioavailable
Posted 3/6/2017 10:23 PM (GMT 0)
I totally forgot about curcumin. I remember that helped out a good bit last time i was having some issues. Anyone have a good formula? I think i used the phytozome one last time but i don't know if that's the best. Also can't use anything antimicrobial like knotweed or sida right now as i'm detoxing from my last episode. I did notice that some ginger/lemon/echinacea juice helped earlier though. I think the ginger mostly. I could feel it burning my nerves lol, but that was way better than the feeling of impending blood clots
Posted 3/8/2017 4:47 AM (GMT 0)
Peteza I am on multiple herbs I am already taking

Japanese Knotweed 20 drop x3
Cats Claw 30 drop x 3
Hawthorn 30 drop x 3
Red Root 10 drop x 3
Burbur Pinella 20 drop x 3
Antitox 20 drop x 3
Cordyceps 10 drop x 3
Houyuttina 6 drops x1
4 cloves garlic
Flaxseed Oil
COQ10
Turmeric
among many other supplements

and yet when I go up dosage on Houyuttina my head begins to feel as if someone is digging their fingers into my brain and pulling it feom the inside out!!! causing me to instantly come back down.

I tried sida on one of my previous attempts last year and the head symptoms got worse accomponied by severe vertigo n inability to hink straight but my health was worse then and then I had to have my wisdom tooth removed and went off all treatment.

Also have the kuzdu just whole herb thoch and not sure how to use.
Hopefully something would work.because this is pretty much my last major symptom as of now and only when I go up in houttuyina which is kind of a positive thing.
Posted 3/8/2017 9:50 AM (GMT 0)
the dragons blood was a good remodulator for me ...consider rife and bvt ...also rifampin and mino can be had at adc for pennys
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