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Posted 3/9/2017 9:53 PM (GMT 0)
Hello- I know that it may seem farfetched, but I believe that the Lyme disease I was diagnosed with a few years ago began in 1967 in Pasadena in rural hills near the Rose Bowl. We often saw deer near our house. In June of that year, at age 16 while my family was moving east across the country from Pasadena I became extremely sick just about the time we got to Arizona. A virulent sore throat, fever, just miserable the whole trip. There was a little bit of recovery, but then I began experiencing extreme pain in my arms, shoulders, and chest, and just feeling lousy for the whole summer and fall when I started attending college. I felt sick my whole freshman year. I kept on experiencing ongoing neurological symptoms, poor sleep, waking up with burning hands and such. I had a twin brother who experienced none of the symptoms I was having. At age 20, the Army called us for the draft and we were brought in for physicals which we both failed. Fortunate because we would've gone directly into the army. I had extreme high blood pressure, my brother had a hernia. The doctor who diagnosed my Lyme disease said that it can cause high blood pressure. Through the following years until the present I continued to have numerous symptoms, ongoing high blood pressure, neurological, abnormal fatigue, sleep issues. Finally a few years ago I was able to get a diagnosis of Lyme Disease. IV antibiotic treatments did help but I still have it. I just wonder about it because Lyme wasn't really discovered in this country until 1975 in Connecticut. I never saw the tick bite but I think it was in my back shoulder area. I had a painful skin lesion or cist there that I had removed and biopsied for cancer but it was benign. Just thought I would post my experience on this forum in case anyone else living in the Pasadena area believe they might have gotten Lyme Disease there, even that far back in time. M. F.

Post Edited By Moderator (Girlie) : 3/9/2017 3:00:54 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 3/9/2017 10:04 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Amadeus - welcome!

First, I edited your post - we shouldn't post personal information on here - so I changed your name to initials only.
It attracts spammers.

It isn't far-fetched at all that you got lyme disease in 1967.

You said IV antibiotics helped but you still have it? So, you still have symptoms?

How long were you on the antibiotics?
If it's an older infection - then it can often take a couple of years of treatment unfortunately.

Have you thought about going to a Lyme Literate Dr.? I'm thinking the one you saw in 1975 was most likely not lyme literate....and you were possibly under-treated.

When you have time, please take a look through the thread at the top of the page titled: "New to Lyme?..Start Here!" It's got a lot of useful information in it.
Posted 3/10/2017 12:29 AM (GMT 0)
Welcome to the forum! So sorry that you had to find us, but you've found a great place for sharing and caring.
Posted 3/10/2017 12:33 AM (GMT 0)
"I just wonder about it because Lyme wasn't really discovered in this country until 1975 in Connecticut."

Lyme wasn't IDENTIFIED in this country until 1975 in Connecticut. That doesn't mean it did exist and exist in other places. I think it's possible that you could have been infected earlier in CA.

And welcome to the board!
Posted 3/10/2017 12:46 AM (GMT 0)
Welcome to the board! Thanks for sharing your story. I too think it is posssible that you were infected in CA as early as that and agree with MM re: Lyme being identified in '75, but could have been elsewhere. My spouse had a tick bite with a bulls eye rash in the 80s in Santa Barbara county.
Posted 3/10/2017 1:25 AM (GMT 0)
A bacteria similar to Borrelia Burgdorferi, in the Borrelia family and a spirochete, known as Relapsing fever, was identified in Colorado in 1915, though it was first seen in N.Y. in 1905. It didn't take long to also appear in California as well as most western and mid-western States.

I've read that Relapsing Fever hasn't been seen since 1992, but I have a strong suspicion that since RF that I am speaking of is the Tick borne kind, that it had possibly been altered or was already in the process of being altered.

Spirochete form bacteria seem to be as old as the earth and highly adaptable.

I don't doubt at all that you got infected in 1968 with what we call Lyme. And probably one or more other co-infections as well.

Incidentally, here are the symptoms for Relapsing Fever: "Most people who are infected develop sickness between five and 15 days after they are bitten. The symptoms may include a sudden fever, chills, headaches, muscle or joint aches, and nausea. A rash may also occur. These symptoms usually continue for two to 9 days, then disappear. This cycle may continue for several weeks if the person is not treated "

That is from Wiki, and based on Wiki's questionable accuracy you can still guess there are similar symptoms of infection.
Posted 3/10/2017 3:22 PM (GMT 0)
"You said IV antibiotics helped but you still have it? So, you still have symptoms?

How long were you on the antibiotics?
If it's an older infection - then it can often take a couple of years of treatment unfortunately."

The IV treatment was four years ago and it was for one month, which was all I could afford. The treatment was from a Lyme literate doctor. Yes I still have symptoms. I have been following the Salt/Vitamin C protocol and I think that helps. I haven't heard of relapsing fever. I will do some research on it. Thanks!

Thank you everyone for the information you have shared. Very helpful! M.F.
Posted 3/10/2017 3:27 PM (GMT 0)
Have you thought about an herbal protocol?

Stephen Buhner (Healing Lyme, second edition) or William Rawls (Unlocking Lyme) both are great books with their protocols in them.

I found Rawls' book very easy to read. Buhner's book has a lot more information.

I would get Unlocking Lyme first and then Healing Lyme.

Rawls was a doctor (ob/gyn) and got lyme. He cured with Buhner's protocol but he did it just slightly different.
Posted 3/10/2017 3:56 PM (GMT 0)
I will look into the herbal protocol. Checking Amazon right now for the books. Thanks!- M.F.
Posted 3/10/2017 4:33 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Amadeaus!
Welcome to our community! I'm so glad you found us. Your story is NOT so far fetched! I was living in Central California prior to moving to Northern Idaho and I'm not sure which state I had more ticks attach, but it was in the late 60's through 1970. In 1970, I ended up with RMSF, at the age of 7, and never recovered until 2010 - 2012, when I got effective treatment for me. I used an all herbal protocol and healed well - but then got reinfected and I'm still here.

There are many alternative means to heal, besides using strictly pharmaceutical abx. Herbs, Rife, HBOT, Essential Oils and more.

And, as Girlie suggested, even though you aren't "new" to Lyme, it would be helpful for you to read our "New to Lyme?" thread that sits at the top of the forum as it's packed with helpful information.
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