Timing of Herbs

Hi friends,

I understand that herbal therapy should be taken on an empty stomach - either a half hour before or 2 hours after eating. Here's my situation - I'm trying to gain weight so I'm eating something just about every 2 hours. This doesn't allow me to take the herbs with enough time in between food. Is an empty stomach a necessity? Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for the help. Be well

Teasel, houtunnyia, sida acuta, banderol, JK, Chinese Skullcap. Going to be adding in a few more. My LLMD told me to take the herbs on an empty stomach, but with how often I'm eating, my stomach is never empty!

Hi BKP -

I think the buffers you are using are optimal and generous, but not critical.

I would be taking my protocol 24 hrs/day, with no opportunity for sleep, if I used those buffers. I think you can shorten them to 30 min before food, 1 hr after food unless your GI function is challenged and you digest slowly. For awhile I shortened some of my buffers to 15 min. and noticed no changes.

Often, the antimicrobial tinctures with multiple herbs need healthy spacing due to synergistic functions but many herbs and tinctures for detoxing can be taken together, too. My Beyond Balance Lyme, bart and babs tinctures shouldn't be taken together in a glass, but can be taken right after one another (and I can't explain why).

I'm not too familiar w/ the others you are taking, but I know that the banderol can be taken w/ other antimicrobial singular tinctures like Samento so maybe it's OK to take w/ something else. And the JK can be taken with others. Hopefully more posters will chime in.

-p

10LymeB -

After reading your post and looking at the issues listed in your salutation, you seem to have some GI issues challenging your treatment. Issues with digestion can create situations where your body is trying to digest solid or partially undigested food, creating opportunities for bacteria and yeast to grow and give parasites an all-you-can-eat buffet.

This can cause the GI process to slow down, malfunction, creating a never-ending cycle - causing other issues and discomfort.

This can cause damage to the mucosal lining, leading to leaky gut as food and fecal matter seep through your intestinal wall and into the bloodstream, carrying these toxins throughout the body and triggering an immune response to them as "foreign", which is why some people are "sensitive" to or "allergic" to the food they eat.

In turn, this can cause problems with proper absorption of nutrients of food, supplements, meds - and make all the trouble and expense we go through with treatment far less effective than we need it to be.

Disruption with the digestive process can also trigger a cascade of dysfunction with other health systems that work comprehensively w/ the GI and immune systems (adrenals, thyroid, neurotransmitters, etc.)

Sorry if you already knew all that - but just wanted to stress the importance of healing the gut before you get too deep into treatment. 70% of our immune system lies within the mucosal lining, which can become compromised w/ GI problems. We desperately need cooperation from our immune system for Lyme & Co treatment.

So this is probably why your stomach can only handle so much.

I hope you're focused on your GI function - please let us know if you have any q's. I held off treatment until I made some progress with my GI issues. I wasn't happy about it at first but so glad I did.

-p

According to Stephen Buhner - they can be taken just before meals:


From the website:


Dear Stephen,
I recently ordered your recommended bartonella protocol products and would like to know how these should be taken (e.g., time of day, before/after meals, etc.). Thank you so much for all your efforts to help those of us who suffer.

Stephen’s response:
Take before meals; on waking, before lunch, before dinner.
Stephen