Hello

Well after the glutathione and alkaselter gold I was feeling decent (heart fairly normal ringing in ears at a tolerable level ) so I decided to go ahead and do the rocephin. I did about 3/4 of the bag ears started ringing really loud so I stopped there. When my ears start ringing really loud that is usually the start of the herx. Then I stung myself 5 times in the area of my liver with the bees my son got from one of our hives. Not sure where I saw this or got the idea. Saw someone in another thread said they ice the area first probably should have done that the abdomen is a tender spot to sting lol. I get stung all the time but usually in the hands and arms working the bees and knees when they hurt and I do it purposely. Now I'm herxing again. Just took charcoal hoping it will help. How often can I do the alkaseltzer gold and glutathione? It seemed to help. Does everyone get the weird heart issues with herx? Weird rhythm, pounding, general not right feeling etc. Did I make the herx worse with the stings ? I'm just trying to speed this up, I feel if I skip a dose of the rocephin it will take that much longer to get back on my feet. At this point I'm willing to try just about anything. My joint pain and dead arms has improved since the abx but that's it. I'm worse in every other way. I have had a stress test and ekg's so ifeel like my heart is ok but when it gets weird from the herxing it can be unsettling to say the least.

Are you doing the Rocephin daily?

5 stings to start - that's a lot...
You can do the alka seltzer gold again...I don't know about the glutathione.

When I herx, I get an increase in my POTS. So, when I stand up from sitting, my heart rate increases .
I also get an increase in my Pulsatile tinnitus.
Along with that, I get shivers throughout my body, and I sweat in strange places. (the backs of my hands, and a few days ago - my knees were sweating)
I also get an increase in my nerve pain - thoracic back area, left arm, and hand.
My head pressure - behind my eyes increases...and it's almost like there is a haze in front of my eyes - my vision is affected.
And then I will get random nerve pain - on different areas...last one was my left shin.
Then I usually cry....I'm usually overwhelmed and am feeling hopeless...even though I've been through it so many times...I never get used to it.

Girlie, yes Iget those other symptoms as well. Shaking, sweating, like all over hot flashes, leg pain (told my wife felt like growing pains all over again), short of breath and standing up does make it worse. Pots?? Blue, yes I'm doing the IV rocephin daily at home through a picc line. Maybe only 10 days total in, I kept changing abx because they said it was allergic reaction. Seriously my docs dont know what a herx is and when I mentioned them they looked at me like I was crazy. She actually told me not believe what i read on the net. Then tried to write a script for zoloft and ativan which really made me mad because it's not anxiety it's herx!! I'm not saying that once it starts I do t get a little anxious but it's a herx darn it. Plus I really don't like to take meds if I can help it my body doesn't react well to them. I was prescribed percocet once after a car wreck, took one and vomited for 3 days. I can't even drink 3 beers without being worthless for the next 3 days. Body is weak Like that. You guys have been a million times more helpful and knowledgeable than the infectious disease docs at WVU. Still herxing this morning but not as bad. I can deal with all of the herx symptoms except the heart thing. Like I said very unsettling. I just lay there telling myself it's no big deal but it still sucks. Blue after reading your posts I looked up the points for the liver and you're right I probably serendipitously hit lv13. I don't think 5 is alot I frequently take 10 or more stings working the hives. Never seems to bother me except in the spring when I go all winter without getting stung. Even then just some localized swelling.

This is so frustrating. I wish I had a doc that would listen and had a clue. I put some calls out yesterday to some llmds that another forum member emailed yesterday but haven't heard back from them yet. If the original doc at med express would have listened to me when I told him I had the classic lymes disease bullseye this all could have been avoided. I wish I could post a pic (even if there is a way not sure I can I am technologically challenged lol), you would not believe what he called shingles. It's the classic em. I'm not an emotional guy but I have to admit I'm feeling hopeless and I feel myself fighting back tears on a daily basis. Feel like a crybaby for even saying that but it is what it is. So here's what I am trying for the herx. Gnc liver health (milk thistle), charcaol, dry skin brushing, fresh squeezed lemon in my water, alkaselter seltzer gold and glutathione, and Epsom salt/peroxide foot soaks. Sound good? Any tweaks that you recommend? I also got a lyme diet cookbook called recipes for repair. I am trying everything I can think of. I need to get these herx under control so I can finish rocephin and get back to work.

To post a picture, you need to use a 3rd party site like tinypic or photobucket, get a shareable link and post that on here.

And don't feel bad!! This is not only an emotional time, but with these infections many of us find ourselves an ball of emotions!

That sounds like a good start on your detoxing! Good for you!! The only way to know if you need more is to wait and see if this is enough to lower your herxing. Do be sure that you don't get constipated with the charcoal use, as then the toxins will just be reabsorbed in the intestines.

Keep asking questions!! That's how we will be of the most help to you.