Rapid recurrence of symptoms

Hi DJF2005

I'm so sorry you're struggling again with sx. I have been treating my BLO rather successfully with Vanco but also other herbal combo tinctures. It is a slow process. I haven't had severe herxing when I stop abx but I know others have and it's absurd that anyone would say ANYTHING is "impossible" with respect to infections and tx. Anyone who thinks medicine and biology have those kinds of absolutes is an idiot.

Ok - rant over.

I would try adding in herbs for Bart.

I would also make sure you are not also dealing with viral load(s). It is very difficult for me to tell the difference between neuropathy from viral flares and Bart- although you may not have this issue . I mention it because I'm surprised how many people have no idea they are also dealing with high viral loads, nor do MDs generally check for it.

Also, please be sure you are detoxing as best you can. Some of us need to help our bodies do what it is supposed to do naturally but sometimes can't.

Hope this is helpful.

-p

I had to cycle through a couple to find something effective and all natural antiviras have failed me so far.

I started on valtrex, then tried acyclovir, then valcyclovir and now I'm back on acyclovir. I was at really high doses that first year and now on a maintenance dose.

You should also take something to protect metabolism of the Rx antivirals in liver - milk thistle seed and burdock root are both required for me to keep enzymes down.

-p

Hello,

This happened to me once I believe I became infected with EBV I started to relapse more quickly. Before it would take a few days, after EBV it took a few hours. I'm currently treating the EBV so hopefully everything else will get under control

Leuricidin (monolaurin) is an excellent antiviral

I treated bart with antibiotics plus Byron White A-Bart

What you explained never happened to me in the way that you described it. Every fall it's like I have a Huge Lyme Flare, and then it calms down. I calm it down by taking herbs and getting strict with my diet. I took antibiotics for 8 months when i was severely sick, and then had to take one round a year later bc I got some sort of infection on a cut - but its been 15 months and counting since i have taken a single antibiotic.

when i get sick, like with a sinus infection, i pump myself up with immune boosters and oil of oregano, that stuff has been awesome. I take it for a few days, then i get better, and then if i continue to take it, I get a headache, which means I dont need it anymore and then I stop. I take the ADP oil of oregano.

these flares have gotten less and less intense as time has progressed, which is a good thing. I still can't figure out exactly what's going on, but so as long as I can get passed it, I am happy.

I am taking Zith and rifampin hh and Samento and a ton of other stuff. That's the gist tho. I herx like crazy so that's my issue getting the herxes and inflammation under control

mcspike - so you think the main cause of flareups is basically the body trying to get rid of the leftover lyme? i am trying to figure this out - i was thinking it was caused by my bad diet.....or maybe its bc i exercise alot so maybe the exercise is pushing out the toxins?

yes, its all making more sense now. i did alot of reading on here and came across a good number of people who said that their reflux (which is currently my and my daughter's issue) was cleared by antibiotics. So this may be bacterial related rather than a real allergy to gluten. Also, the shoulder pain I had with lyme is back, so I took cat's claw today, 5 drops in the am and pm, and definitely felt a tiny herx. My gosh, maybe only 5% of what I used to feel, but it's there, so I think my goal now is to treat lyme again but very mildly, fix my diet up, and at the end of june I will be going away so I won't be doing the super duper one hour exercise classes for a good couple of weeks. Gonna see where that takes me!

I am still curious what the bottom line cause of flares might be - it may be different for each person. But my main goal is for the flares to be less severe as time goes on until they go away completely (I do hope that is achievable!!)

hi chickenarise, thanks for your help.

I just started taking probiotics again. Sometime in the fall I started having issues with food. I have had them before - like sneezing when eating sugar, or heart racing when having dairy (while being sick with lyme and or candida), but this was something new and awkward. After eating gluten rich foods, I would get a lump feeling in my throat. Several times I was mildy choking on rice, apples, and pretzels. I am always swallowing mucus now, and it seems as though I have become intolerant of gluten. I was trying to figure out if it was bc I was eating too much of it when I wasn't supposed to (my dr told me i should try to remain on the anti-lyme diet for life, and may have to do so otherwise symptoms may arise again).

I do think I have digestive issues with gluten and or foods in general bc if I eat anything with oil I burp like a maniac and I have had loose stools for months. I just ordered a round of digestive enzymes, but I am starting to think that maybe there is lyme/bart bacteria in my gut rather than just plain old digestive issues. I went to the ENT and he confirmed that I have atypical reflux (reflux without the heartburn symptoms) My older daughter is refluxing anything related to the anti-lyme diet as well, gluten and dairy mostly. Just started for her out of the blue when I reintroduced some Buhner herbs (I did that to help her mood - long story but those herbs really work for her).

thanks for any input!

Post Edited (Chapelle) : 6/9/2017 4:58:22 AM (GMT-6)