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Posted 8/28/2017 5:30 PM (GMT 0)
Hello. Finally confirmed I have 3 bands of Lyme. Not sure which ones. According to my pcp, you need 5 out of 10 to be treated for Lyme. He still gave me a 30 day supply of doxy and wants me to see a Infectious disease dr. Currently I'm taking cats claw, serrapeptase, grapefruit seed extract, ultraflora probiotics and kidney detox support which I've only been taking for 9 days, given to me by a naturalist. Should I try the Doxy or keep doing the natural stuff. I just need your input on how you would handle this. My pcp was VERY VERY upset with me that I made an appointment with a LLMD, whom I can't see till March. My pcp also told me to stop taking magnesium. I'm soooooooo confused. Any other suggestions for toxin binders? Activated charcoal constipates me even though I drink tons of water. Do all binders do this to you? I also do coffee enemas and Epsom salt baths. Thank you!
Posted 8/28/2017 5:46 PM (GMT 0)
Actually, with only ONE Lyme specific band, you need to be treated! So please do find out what bands you tested positive for.

Whether or not to use only pharma, only herbs/natural means or a combination of the two- it's all very individualized. It all depends on what you need, and what you prefer - as well as the person's specific situation in having a practitioner that will be of help. Herbs alone have helped me heal, but others may need or prefer to have abx.

It does seem that your PC doesn't know much - why would they tell you to stop taking magnesium???? Our food is deficient and that means that our bodies are deficient in this VERY necessary nutrient!
www.merckmanuals.com/home/hormonal-and-metabolic-disorders/electrolyte-balance/overview-of-magnesium-s-role-in-the-body

And if your PC doesn't like you getting a second opinion - that alone would get me to switch doctors. No human is so perfect that they don't miss something or not recognize the signs of something from time to time. Sounds like there is a lot of ego involved with these words.

Yes, most binders do have a tendency to cause constipation - especially if you already "lean" that way like I do. I use magnesium oxide to help my bowels continue to move, as well as a number of other things (I have a great deal if GI issues). I also take magnesium orotate to get magnesium to my muscles and other areas of my body that may need it.

Here is a list of the different types of magnesium and how they 'operate' in the body so you can choose the right one for your needs:
/www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/types-of-magnesium/
Posted 8/28/2017 5:59 PM (GMT 0)
Modified citrus pectin is a binder I use in addition to charcoal.

I have severe IBS constipation, too, and use Natural Calm magnesium for that. I have to take more than double the recommended dose, though. For me, it works better than fiber, Miralax, or Colace, without the side effects I got from some of those.

If you can get your magnesium dose up to the point where you're comfortably moving your bowels every day, I don't think you'll be hindered from taking binders. The constipation is more likely due to the infections and the dysfunction they cause in the body. I try to take a dose each of citrus pectin and charcoal every day.

I 2nd Trav's response about herbs and doctors, but I will be so bold as to say I vote for herbs. Sounds like you're already leaning towards a more natural approach. Listen to your gut, and do what you feel is right for you, even if it means going against the traditional grain.
Posted 8/28/2017 6:11 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Traveler. My doctor said the magnesium interferes with my Synthroid. He also said not to take a multivitamin. The magnesium I take is mg taurate, mg Glycinate and mg malate. I'm trying to find another pcp but I'm having no luck because no one in my area is accepting new patients or my insurance. Thanks
Posted 8/28/2017 6:24 PM (GMT 0)
So, now that I understand that he was concerned about the Synthroid, it makes a bit more sense - but all you have to do is take them at separate times. What I read is 4 hours apart on some sites, but others claim there is no interaction to be concerned about.

Best of luck with the dr situation!! I really do understand. I'm without a doctor because there are none around here that are willing to actually help me with anything. They are all too afraid of supplements and natural healing - not to mention they wouldn't recognize Lyme disease if it happened to them.
Posted 8/28/2017 7:55 PM (GMT 0)
I would take both (doxy and herbs). Matter of a fact I am taking both haha.
Posted 8/28/2017 8:14 PM (GMT 0)
I'm hypothyroid and take naturethroid in the morning and my magnesium before bed. My LLMD encourages the magnesium. I take activated charcoal (2 caps) midday.

I started with a month of doxy and tin, then added samento. After 2 months I had candida even though I was pulsing (about every other day) and switched to all herbal for a couple of months, samento, houttinya and red root. LLMD just added rifampin (sp?) for barton ella and stopped houttinaya. It is for a couple of months.

I take other things too, but those are the heavy hitters. Everyone is right that it is very individual, but I thin what's important is to keep mixing things up to make sure you are targeting all the different forms the bacteria can take.

My goal is to ultimately have my own immune system kick in and fight back. Not quite there yet, but doing much better than I was at the beginning of the year.
Posted 8/28/2017 8:55 PM (GMT 0)
Hey! Have you tried Chlorella as a binder? I used to take a ton of it but stopped a few years ago. When I realized I had Lyme & needed a binder I was trying to use activated charcoal - but , crazy as this sounds, feel that it was aggravating my kidneys ( maybe stones, not sure...)

I just started w/ the chlorella again & im remembering why I loved it so much! Haven't experienced any constipation issues even tho I'm taking a decent sized dose... however I do take magnesium every night, it's the only thing that's normalized my bowel function. I don't know enough about all this stuff to say if chlorella is as good a binder as the charcoal, but it may be another option.

Good luck with the doctor situation!!! I too would question a doc who gets upset over your seeking a specialist of your choice!
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