Rapid Collagen degeneration/re-generation

Hello all,

I'm experiencing something that I wonder others have as well.

I experience collagen loss and collagen re-generation rapidly. I can see it occurring virtually in real time. Virtually in real time meaning within 30 minutes to an hour.

The palms of my hands will visibly lose collagen, get really loose like an 80 year old person and get really wrinkly. I know this symptom is pretty common. But it then stops and regenerates in like an hour.

Then my wrist does the same thing. It will loose a substantial amount of collagen where I can see all kinds of ligaments and indention but then watch it regenerate over the course of 30 minutes to an hour back to "normal".

The rapid regeneration is what makes the symptom really freaky. If it happened much slower over the entire day or multiple days it would be one thing.

But it's like I'm a X-Men mutant.

Is this just rapid/short lived inflammation (herx)?

Girlie said...
dacarte - throughout the day - my fingers change - they go from being plump to wrinkled , back to plump.

I don't think the collagen is regenerating when they're plump.
I doubt it happens that fast.

I'm thinking it's nerve and/or blood flow issues.

I do know that my bad side (left) - the finger pads are plump more during the day than they used to be.

Interesting. But how can blood cause that much of a difference?

I guess it's possible.

That's two mentions of blood flow issues.

Girlie said...

dacarte3 said...

Girlie said...
dacarte - throughout the day - my fingers change - they go from being plump to wrinkled , back to plump.

I don't think the collagen is regenerating when they're plump.
I doubt it happens that fast.

I'm thinking it's nerve and/or blood flow issues.

I do know that my bad side (left) - the finger pads are plump more during the day than they used to be.

Interesting. But how can blood cause that much of a difference?

I guess it's possible.

Bartonella affects our heart and blood vessels. If the blood isn't pumping efficiently - maybe it could affect the fingers like that... IDK - but they are at the end of the 'line'.

I just don't think collagen can regenerate that quickly - as in hours.

You are probably correct that it can't.

I guess I should re-title this post as rapid "wasting" regeneration. Like walkingbyfaith said, it's like it "waste" away and then later it plumps back up.

Weird.

in my case the collagen was lost then visable changes became that much more freakshow...the wrinkling of fingerskin noticed it was a blood pressure /hydration and herxy thing, although , when the wasting first started i felt like i was urinating protein or something with bart bladder but i learned a bit about the renin system minerals and hormones specifically aldosterone which like cortisol probably gets depleted . one can buy a inhaled version from over seas (kinda pricey ) and i dont know which drug the prescribe for pots but i chew on raw licorice sticks, and they're plump all day . the other line of thought gh has me on lately in the nitric oxide and how it may be regulated by gut flora. and our vessels inflate and deflate based on that . i have not tried the supplements that meatheads use yet.

Could it be water retention and depletion?