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Posted 10/1/2017 8:27 PM (GMT 0)
Found this, thought it might be worth reading for some people.

balancedconcepts.net/liver_phases_detox_paths.pdf

Many get high liver #s (ALT, AST) from ABX and maybe the "killer" herbs too. Not many on herbs get their liver tested since most do herbs on their own.

Some people herx pretty hard and some people were just born with livers that naturally have issues (23and Me can point this out). Might not be a coincidence. Both of those fit me, surly I'm not the only one here (23andMe showed it too).

I use D-limonene every other night for liver detox II genes. D-limonene stays in you 48 hours, BUT I feel noticeably better (whole body) the day after. I originally used it for REflux, then a Dr said to take it for liver detox. This is not in this PDF, guess they dont know? The ones listed dont do much for me but maybe for others.

Post Edited (astroman) : 10/1/2017 2:43:06 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/2/2017 5:09 PM (GMT 0)
Very interesting. I will read it at some point (26 pages...)

For three years I have done well on both milk thistle seed and burdock root - needed both - while on abx, antiviral and antifungal meds and herbal antimicrobials/antifungals/antivirals/antibiofilms throughout my tx.

And I get my labs done weekly so I feel pretty confident the enzymes are in good shape. But I had some rife--type "example" analysis done (by a specialist trying to sell a rife-type wrist band) who said that my liver is in really bad shape. So, this is either "interesting" or interesting so I should probably look into it further. Or at least do more liver support.

Sheesh...

Thanks for posting Astro

-p
Posted 10/2/2017 5:15 PM (GMT 0)
I'd like to read it...but can't do the 26 pages right now.


How about a summary, Astro? tongue


I had liver enzymes climb up out of range once in the past 3 years...it was when I was on lyme only treatment...
maybe it was the Tinidazole? or maybe infection related.

Started on Bartonella treatment - with Rifampin after a 2 1/2 month abx break...and my liver enzymes continued to drop and have stayed in range ever since. (over two years now)

I'm back taking tinidazole again (pulsed) so will see what the next labs show.
Posted 10/2/2017 6:13 PM (GMT 0)
I like PDF's since you can copy them, websites change sometimes. Its not difficult reading...

I personally think its important to know if you have the genetics for liver detox issues. Dr told me to never become an alcoholic- cause my liver will die real fast compared to someone without the liver mutations.

I herxed forever on ABX, now I know why. Dr gave me ABX brakes per liver enzyme #'s.

People forget or either dont know how the liver is so intertwined with everything else..even depression and anxiety.
Posted 10/2/2017 6:23 PM (GMT 0)
Mentions symptoms, signs, supplements/diet for both phase I and phase II liver methalation issues with charts (yes pictures/illustrations!).

This explains why certain liver detox work for some but not others, depends how many "bad" gene copies we have for each phase. There are many for both phases, chances are you have some. I have many for phase II, so its noticeable to me.

If you had 23andMe tested, this guessing is eliminated.
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