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Posted 11/5/2017 7:10 PM (GMT 0)
Good afternoon,
My naturopath gave me 7C for Lyme, the effect did not last long, since the dosage is pretty high and the effect only lasted a few days, should I go for antibiotics instead?
Posted 11/5/2017 8:16 PM (GMT 0)
vacant - Most people I know who have done LDI - do treatment first and then do the LDI

I have a LLND near me and that is how she is using the LDI shots.

You might need to get the bacterial load down first.

...and then there's the fact that not every 'thing' works on everyone.

Also, there are the co-infections
Posted 11/5/2017 10:02 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,
I am not sure if I understand, I have to take antibiotics first , then LDI?
Is that correct? Everyone is different.
Posted 11/5/2017 10:39 PM (GMT 0)

vacant said...
Hi,
I am not sure if I understand, I have to take antibiotics first , then LDI?
Is that correct? Everyone is different.

That's how the LLND I know who offers it does it.

Yes everyone is different. Since it didn't work - maybe that's why? (Not getting the bacteria load down first.)
Or maybe you need to go up in strength.
Posted 11/5/2017 11:02 PM (GMT 0)
What is LLND?
Posted 11/5/2017 11:14 PM (GMT 0)

vacant said...
What is LLND?

Lyme Literat Naturopathic Doctor.

Is the plan for you to take a higher strength next?
Posted 11/5/2017 11:29 PM (GMT 0)
With LDI - the effects (hopefully improvement) are supposed to last longer and longer with each dose. Does your doctor offer booster doses?

I would stick with it at least for a few doses to see how it goes.
Posted 11/6/2017 12:53 AM (GMT 0)

k07 said...
With LDI - the effects (hopefully improvement) are supposed to last longer and longer with each dose. Does your doctor offer booster doses?

I would stick with it at least for a few doses to see how it goes.


K07 - was it you who had tried the LDN ?
Posted 11/6/2017 2:01 AM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...

k07 said...
With LDI - the effects (hopefully improvement) are supposed to last longer and longer with each dose. Does your doctor offer booster doses?

I would stick with it at least for a few doses to see how it goes.


K07 - was it you who had tried the LDN ?


You mean ldi? Yes, i did. I just tried it again recently though and had no response (and the dose was 1c stronger -14c). Not sure why when I had a response (buzzing went away) with 16c & 15c. I know they removed the beta gluc from it so maybe that is why. I’m not sure if I will try it anymore.
Posted 11/6/2017 2:10 AM (GMT 0)

k07 said...

Girlie said...

k07 said...
With LDI - the effects (hopefully improvement) are supposed to last longer and longer with each dose. Does your doctor offer booster doses?

I would stick with it at least for a few doses to see how it goes.


K07 - was it you who had tried the LDN ?


You mean ldi? Yes, i did. I just tried it again recently though and had no response (and the dose was 1c stronger -14c). Not sure why when I had a response (buzzing went away) with 16c & 15c. I know they removed the beta gluc from it so maybe that is why. I’m not sure if I will try it anymore.

oops, yes LDI...(not LDN)

Okay - yes, now I remember you had buzzing that resolved with it.
Do you get it from the Dr. in Hawaii?
What is the beta gluc...what was it's purpose?
Posted 11/6/2017 3:23 AM (GMT 0)
Below is from dr m r. I think it was removed because it was under scrutiny by fda and also in short supply. Dr. V says he has found no difference in its effectiveness with the removal. So now it is just dead bacteria. Beta gluc is an enzyme which we have in us naturally.

Beta-Glucuronidase Increases Tregs

This is the magic chemical that makes LDI effective. In fact we know from research that beta-glucuronidase does increase Tregs. This we know from the pioneering work of Dr. Leonard McEwen who is the father of enzyme potentiated desensitization which was later developed into LDA in this country by WA Shrader, JR., MD in 2001. Dr. McEwen injected beta-glucuronidase into nose polyps and found they decreased in size. Nose polyps occur as a result of nose allergies. This lead him to investigate using it further and incorporating it into his allergy desensitization shots. Beta glucuronidase increases Tregs for the substances it is mixed with. So it can increase Tregs for tree pollens if that is what it is mixed with.

Be aware though that there is no research that has been done to show that Tregs increase when the beta-glucuronidase is mixed with dead germs as part of LDI for lyme and/or the coinfections. However this is how we suspect it works.
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