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sandyfeet, how bad was your insomnia prior to taking the buhner herbs?

What was your improvement like and how long did it take?

Don't take rhodiola at night. I take it twice a day. One capsule in the morning and one with the afternoon herbs. Rhodiola is a stimulant that Buhner says can be substituted in place of eleuthero. I would not take rhodiola and eleuthero together - one or the other. Eleuthero is purportedly the most stimulating of the two.

I initially had some issues taking ashwaganda at night. I would take it with the other herbs around 8:30 and it would make me sleepy a half hour to an hour later. By the time I would get to bed, it would wear off and I would feel stimulated. I kept taking it though, and my body adjusted pretty quickly.

I haven't noticed sida affecting my sleep, but I was only taking 4 drops.