Who here has gotten rid of their depersonalization / brain fog / spacey feeling?

My brain symptoms are a lot better - I still have some cognitive and short term memory issues but getting better with treatment and time.

I used to wake up each morning and not know what day of the week it was or what plans I had for the day.

You haven’t treated very long - it could take many months - and if it’s Bart causing it, then you’ll need to treat Bart after Babesia.

For the brain - you can try one of these: Nutramedix Pinella Brain/Nerve Cleanse or Jernigan’s Neuro Antitox CNS/PNS

I’ve been treating for 5 months and have improved a lot. Stress plays a high factor with flair ups.

For me keeping BP below 120/80 with meds also helps.

I’ve met people that have struggled long term but they all have 1 thing in common. They’re were and are still very inconsistent in their treatment.

Best advice I’ve read is that it’s very hard to navigate out of this infection on your own. You just don’t have the level of judgement.

elvin said...
Try herbals, they are much more effective in my opinion. You will feel worse at first. Took me 6 weeks of mild herx until I felt mostly recovered.

For every person who says herbals are more effective - there’s a person saying antibiotics are better.

Nascent Iodine used with a slow ascent from 3mg to 15mg along with Doxy and Fluconazole had the most impact on my brain fog and thyroid. It took about 3 months but I caught it relatively early and treated aggressively.

Post Edited (ChickenArise) : 5/18/2018 8:22:11 PM (GMT-6)

I had Lyme for almost thirteen years before treating. One of the symptoms that I hated the most and couldn't shake was major brain fog. I didn't feel an improvement until I went on IV rocephin. And then a long run of abx. Took away my brain fog and panic attacks. I still deal with memory problems and slight foggyness here and there but no where near what it was.

astroman said...
What creates brain fog can be way more complicated than just one thing..such as "brain inflammation".

Many assume they have brain inflammation or lyme in the brain. yes this is possible, but not necessarily the case.

What we do know brain fog can be related to:

-your digestive system which is connected to your CNS.

-hormones - thyroid / adrenals, brain amino acid methalation, and liver health

-related to sleep, or lack / quality of

-autoimmune

Very true. Knowing the cause is key.

A decent way of doing it is understanding the other symptoms one may be experience at the same time.

For example, for me symptoms are worse right after eating. The inflammation occurring pretty quickly. Stuffy nose, phelm, and low grade fever accompanies it. Gives me more clues to cause. Sounds very gut/digestive related.

Been taking anti-fungals and pinella with some slow but steady progress.

So log what other symptoms you may be feeling as well, especially when these symptoms heighten. Log what you routinely do or don't do when it occurs, for clues, etc.

Lyme requires one to basically be Sherlock Holmes.

elvin said...
Try herbals, they are much more effective in my opinion. You will feel worse at first. Took me 6 weeks of mild herx until I felt mostly recovered.

Which herbs did you use to be specific?

yes i have. no neuro issues here. i had terrible brain fog, memory issues, spatial confusiom etc....

all gone after 8 months mino+rif+zithro

i am still not sure if it will get back. i just stopped abx and on herbs only. fingers crossed.

Could you tell me more about your depersonalization and what that feels like?

I seem to be on the other side of it for some time. My MD asserts the depression comes primarily from inflammation, but my ND seems to feel it was caused by the serotonin breakdown pathway going haywire. Either way, after 1 year of abc and 2 + on herbs feel like 80% cured. Hang in there.

I'm sorry to hear this mpost, I think that's probably what would happen to me as well if I get off my protocol. It always seems that my symptoms line up with bartonella and that would explain the quick relapse, I suppose.

mpost said...

elvin said...
Try herbals, they are much more effective in my opinion. You will feel worse at first. Took me 6 weeks of mild herx until I felt mostly recovered.

i relapsed badly while on herbals for 2 years.

my advice is if on any treatment, u see your health going down for months and months, and never go back, it means u are not going to be better, and change treatment and even the llmd if she is too stubborn to understand...

do not stay like me for 2 years on herbs thinking at "the healing power of plants" while the bacteria takes hold of your brain. i did not have brain fog before the herbs and i ended up like that and i barely managed to pull myself out of it.

i told my dr time and time again im getting worse and she was pumping B vitamins in me to "compensate"... she was treating herbs only... some doctors just live in denial at their patients' peril ...

I always promote ABX for the much needed haymaker punches. If health is deteriorating fast use ABX to assist. After that initial potent assault of ABX one can switch to herbs finish the fight and/or keep lyme at bay.

Can herbs only take some one from 0% to 100%, yes it's possible but herbs are a thousands japs versus ABX which are haymakers. With the former just a much slower process. "Death by a thousand cuts".

Doing both at some point during treatment is the way to go, for both bring things that the other does not to the table.

As much as I'm an herb guy, I've never got out of a lyme hole with only one or the other. ABX tends to get me out of the hole, while herbs keeps me out of it for as long as it can.