Twitching. Is it always Lyme or could it be Bart?

I've been posting lately about my 3-year old twitching like crazy while sleeping and tossing and turning all night - the twitching is also starting to happen when she's awake. A few people mentioned to me that twitching is a symptom of Bart. We are treating her with abx for Lyme, because that's what I assumed it was.

I tested negative for Bart but still treated for it about 5 years ago while I was super sick. We are assuming my daughter contracted whatever it is via breastmilk.

Should I be looking into her having her treated for Bart as opposed to Lyme or both?

Thanks for your thoughts--
Sarah

Thank you Healing98.. no words


how much magnesium and what kind? she weights 30 lbs. how does Japanese knotweed protect her body? and i'm not too familiar with what herbs and how much to give her... id rather not treat her with both if she only has lyme....

thanks for any insight - i relapsed so i'm not well either..

Mag citrate does not give loose stools ...i would use 2 cups epsoms salts in a bath to start ...topical mag oil or lotion is effective ....iv and oral phosphatydlcholine help seal my frayed nerves ....i couldn't even listen to music anymore

bluelyme said...
Mag citrate does not give loose stools ...i would use 2 cups epsoms salts in a bath to start ...topical mag oil or lotion is effective ....iv and oral phosphatydlcholine help seal my frayed nerves ....i couldn't even listen to music anymore

Magnesium citrate DOES loosen stools. It's the only thing that works for my recalcitrant constipation.

Two cups epsom salt is too much to start, IMO. I'm an adult. I started with 1 cup in a foot bath for weeks before I dared soak my whole body. I got sick with nausea and vomiting a couple of times early on.

With anything, start low and go slow. You definitely don't want to cause a 3 year old to herx if you can help it. Herxing is horrible enough for us. A little child can't explain very well how they feel.

I am so sorry, Yogi.

For chronic Lyme, Buhner doesn’t recommend Astragalus... unless he’s changed that




“If you are not currently sick, you can certainly take astragalus. The reason for not recommending it is that astragalus raises the parts of the immune system that are overactivated in chronic lyme. Those parts of the immune system are highly effective against lyme early on and help prevent or reduce the disease but if they are low to begin with and you are infected the infection can spread more easily. After awhile the immune system does ratchet up those parts to attack the lyme bacteria but by then the spirochete has altered itself and is no longer very affected by them, those parts of the immune system then begin to cause some of the lyme symptoms people have making the disease a kind of autoimmune problem. My book Healing Lyme goes into this in a great amount of detail.”
Stephen

WalkingbyFaith said...

Girlie said...
For chronic Lyme, Buhner doesn’t recommend Astragalus... unless he’s changed that

In most cases he doesn't or he says to try it and see how you respond. I saw one answer where a person was chronic and was greatly helpeby astragulus and got worse when she stopped taking it after reading Buhner's book about it being contraindicated for chronic folks.

I found a really good explanation from Buhner about astragulus here:

buhnerhealinglyme.com/herbs/astragalus-contraindicated/

Yup - what I quoted in my post is part of that longer post.

Hi Yogi,

To give your child the best chance....I would seek out an llmd that treats children,or if one is not in your area I would see if one would consult with your current caregiver to form a plan of treatment.

Regarding herbals..I would suggest consulting directly with a Buhner herbalist such as Julie M.

www.gaianstudies.org/herbal_consult.html



They do it via Skype or phone I believe for a fee. They are the experts on herbals and would surely know what amounts to give a child per their age and weight.


Yes it sounds like Bart but symptoms can overlap and your child could also have Lyme.

The dogs barking startling your child, could be due to Bart causing auditory issues. When my dog would bark it would set off symptoms for me, also too much input of noise from TV, radio etc.

Make sure your child has a way to calm everything down if this happens. Relaxtion techniques or quiet place child can go to.

Meanwhile look into building her immune system, eating healthy, detoxing and teach your child to let you know what they are feeling and when.

A young child possibly wouldn't say anything because they don't know its any thing unusual unless they were in pain, etc.

keep a journal of symptoms, mood changes, sleep patterns and any other changes.


I wish you and your family the best of healing and feel free to reach out here with more questions or for support.

Take care.

Re: magnesium supplementation - I’ve been told by an MD and a ND that magnesium glycinate is the best form to take.
The MD said you can take higher amounts without it causing diarrhea.
I was taking a high dose and it didn’t affect my bowels adversely.

www.orangenaturals.com/magnesium/

Article on that form of mag


/www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315372.php

Missouri said...
For me, twitching did not respond to magnesium supplements. I tried lots and lots of them. Ceftin and or Minocycline were the best for stopping the twitching.

Twitching was a big one for me. I had them all over my body. Lots in my face/eyelids, legs, some in my torso/arms. Even had limbs jumping around (myoclonic jerks I think they are called).

Same here - I was twitching prior to diagnosis...and took high doses of magnesium - no change in the twitching.
That was when I started reading about ALS and really freaked out...lol.

Mine went away with lyme/bart treatment...can't remember - but maybe even prior to bart treatment when I was just on lyme antibiotics.

I had the jerks just on my right leg...and it would be when I laid down at night to go to sleep....horrendous time period....PTSD from that time, I'm sure. right leg buzzing, jerking, left cheek numb/hurting/buzzing, waking up every 2 hours in a panic, sweating, gasping for air. How the heck do we overcome those horrific days unscathed? sheesh.