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What are some herbs that directly go after and kill bartonella.
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LJohn23
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Posted 7/15/2018 1:50 AM (GMT 0)
For some reason, in just paranoid that Houttuynoa, isatis, and alchornea aren't enough. I honestly don't know much about
Stephen buhners protocol or book. I can't take sida acute which I think is a good bart killer and I'm not taking Japanese knotweed for estrogenic qualitities that some believe it contain.
doors12
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Posted 7/15/2018 2:02 AM (GMT 0)
Yeah i wonderef if hout was mostly pissin bart off with some killing...remember bart has the double cell wall
bluelyme
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Posted 7/15/2018 2:38 AM (GMT 0)
You could add allicin and propolis to help. ..
LJohn23
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Posted 7/15/2018 3:17 AM (GMT 0)
Allicin and propolis kill bartonella?
Girlie
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Posted 7/15/2018 6:43 AM (GMT 0)
LJohn23 said...
Allicin and propolis kill bartonella?
They have antibacterial properties.
Girlie
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Posted 7/15/2018 6:46 AM (GMT 0)
What about
Stephania? (it's what Buhner has said you can substitute for the JK)
LJohn23
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Posted 7/15/2018 1:36 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah I have the Stephanie. But I figured the Allicin wouldn't be strong enough to do killing right?
sebreg
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Posted 7/15/2018 1:47 PM (GMT 0)
I second Allicin. I've always liked the Zhang brand. Allicin is mentioned by Dr Mozayeni (bart expert) in this article:
www.townsendletter.com/July2015/bartonellosis0715_3.html
goshawk
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Posted 7/16/2018 12:22 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for that article sebreg, it was very helpful and interesting.
I have never tried Allicin and its good to know of another thing that may help.
Take care.
opugirl
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Posted 7/16/2018 12:50 AM (GMT 0)
I took Allimax which was crazy expensive and honestly I didn't feel much difference. I had better results with raw garlic but houttuynia definitely did it for me.
LJohn23
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Posted 7/16/2018 2:03 PM (GMT 0)
Seberg- the article also mentions. Banderol, samento, cumanda. I didn't know those killed bartonella too.
sebreg
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Posted 7/16/2018 2:30 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah, sometimes it takes a lot of trial and error. For some people allicin is effective, for others not so much. One factor probably depends on pathogens and specific strains involved. Certain strains might respond to one thing but not another.
I think samento and banderol have pretty broad coverage, cumanda from what I recall seemed to have more activity against parasites and protozoa.
I've always liked having a lot of fallback options to try out so I'm always keeping my eye out!
I also like Tick Slayer's essential oil combos for these infections. I think they provide good coverage for the various infections. And per usual, I would think some people will respond to that therapy and others maybe not so much. One trick I was told was to put the oils in water and add apple cider vinegar, then you drink that combo. Supposedly the ACV helps carry the oils throughout more tissues (or some such thing, I honestly have no clue how legit that is but just throwing it out there!).
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