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Posted 7/29/2018 8:04 PM (GMT 0)
I just went through a pretty toxic herx.
It suddenly hit me like a train at full force.
It didn't last too long. maybe a couple of hours. The lemon water sure helped with the detox.

Must've been the combination of oregano, basil, rosemary, thyme, nettle, GSE and a few other bactericidal herbs that I took throughout the day.

This herx gave me head pressure, dizziness, dry mouth, it messed with the heart, it messed with the body temperature, cold hands, lots of bowel movement, and a few other nasty symptoms.

Can you please describe your typical herx?

What substance(s) made you get the herx?

Have you experienced different kinds of herxes depending on the therapy? If yes, how do these herxes differ from one another?

Post Edited (insomniaaa) : 8/17/2018 7:50:48 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/30/2018 12:55 AM (GMT 0)
I don't know that there is such a thing as a typical 'herx' oh wouldn't that be nice though lol!

-on ceftin, I was crazy thirsty, drinking 1 gallon plus of water a day/dizzy, weird and off but mainly just very thirsty (not a bad herx if I say so myself)

-on Houttuynia after I drank some tea (I think I had started sida acuta recently then too), I couldn't move-my husband had to carry me upstairs that night. It was stomach cramps but I can't even begin to describe the agony-there was one position like 45 degree angle that I was OK at and if I moved just an inch I had the worst pains. I actually stopped houttuynia after that for awhile.

-a lot of mine involved pain underneath my shoulder blade like a sharp pain

Most of them though were easier to identify because it would happen when I started something new and then stopped.
Posted 7/30/2018 1:24 AM (GMT 0)
I've heard oregano can be pretty potent. It's one of the herbs in Candicid Forte that I take.

The last time I was on it, after I'd been taking it about 3-4 weeks, I started having brief, sudden bouts of weakness and slight dizzyness. about a week later, I had diarrhea and vomiting that was not a stomach virus or food poisoning. Some weird stuff came out that may have been candida. Four days later, I had diarrhea again. That time, I felt complete relief and had a breakthrough with the IBS-C that had been plaguing me for almost 3 years.

Unfortunately, I stopped taking it, and the gut issues returned. I'm back on it now. Started the first of July. Have had some stomach upset this past week. Hoping I get another breakthrough.
Posted 8/14/2018 9:15 AM (GMT 0)
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Posted 8/14/2018 10:44 AM (GMT 0)
Personally I never had a herx and I feel bad for those who do suffer herxes. Probably because as the bacteria were dying off (leaving toxins that can cause a herx) I was detoxing.

I took (and currently take) detox baths (first I dry skin brush my body with a natural fiber brush to open my pores). Then I put about 4 to 6 cups of Epsom Salts along with an entire bottle of hydrogen peroxide in my bath and soak. I used to do this bath daily but now I do the bath about 3 to 4 times a week.

I used to use an infra-red sauna (need to buy a new one) as well as coffee enemas and internal cleansing (liver / gallbladder flush).

I think because I am pro-active in my detoxing even though I have been healed for over 12 years this is one of the factors that keeps my immune system strong plus keeps me healthy. There are other factors as well regarding my immune system but that's another topic.

Don't know if you take detox baths and dry skin brush your body. In my opinion these baths are a must in order to heal from any type of chronic disease. If (and I dislike the "if" word) I knew about detox baths when I first became sick I probably would have healed so much faster just taking these baths even before starting any remedies.

Hope you feel better,
Denise
Posted 8/14/2018 9:20 PM (GMT 0)
Opu, was it yesterday your left shoulder blade? I get this too in herxes . Always assumed it was a stressed spleen
Posted 8/14/2018 11:09 PM (GMT 0)
I get all neurological herxes. Mostly a serious magnification of my normal symptoms... Loud tinnitus, stiff walking, fatigue, anxiety, nonstop muscle twitching. Fun stuff.
Posted 8/15/2018 3:35 AM (GMT 0)
Okay I will chime in...and say that I find it difficult to tell a herx from a food allergy now, but maybe this is a new one, papaya: the seeds taste like paint thinner and think I had a delayed gut reaction over about 2-3 days. Today a bad choice of coca cola and potato chips for breakfast led to an entire morning of brain fog, depressive thoughts, continued after chewing some ginger and squirting lemon and lots of water, then a much better ketogenic lunch of a well cooked chicken quarter with some blanched purple cabbage...it never ceases to amaze me how much my gut biome determines my health, mood and quality of life, when I fast or eat leafy greens and the right proteins, I can feel fairly normal for hours at a time, but I know I still have low grade fever that gets more intense like a very warm almost burning feeling in my skull when I crash from my daily caffeine. My herx at their worst is an achy flu feeling that migrates and varies with movement, a deep cellular insomnia or gut malaise, twitching, anxiety, like not wanting to do things because of irrational deep seated fear, cracky neck, it's so unpredictable yet I myself might look in a mirror and seem like I look healthy with not much hint of what's going on underneath my skin.
Posted 8/15/2018 10:15 AM (GMT 0)
I think I could’ve write a poem about herxes...

Most of the time it is neurological, lots of crying,
pain behind the eyes, sand feeling in eyes, hands shaking,
muscle twitching ( thats the funniest one, as
it can start and end very suddenly and I never can be prepared for it),
the worst herxes are with horrible migraine, vomitings,
fever, pain everywhere and desire to kill myself .

Binding is a must, I used to underestimate it
Posted 8/15/2018 12:34 PM (GMT 0)
For me herxes usually amplify my underlying symptoms. Or they will draw out older symptoms I haven't had in a while. My usual herx symptoms amplify head pressure, headaches, blurry vision, broken concentration, fatigue, insomnia, anxiety, neuropathy, air hunger (with babesia meds). And one constant is that effective meds always make the lymph nodes behind my ears flare. Most of my herx symptoms are highly neurological, which has been how my illness has manifested.

I try to detox as much as possible, but it can still be a challenge. Sometimes I have to take breaks from the meds otherwise the herxing can get out of control and drive me crazy. Especially when it gets to the point where I'm sleeping less than 5 hours, at that point I start losing mental stability and am unable to cope with the general herx symptoms.
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