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Posted 8/19/2018 8:46 PM (GMT 0)
I know c4a is elevated in biotoxin illnesses but Dr M said he also sees c4a elevated in active bartonella infections. My c4a has always been normal, and c3a low. Is high c4a specific to any particular tick bourne infections?
Posted 8/19/2018 9:15 PM (GMT 0)
I don’t think I’ve had that test done.


Is it part of a panel ?- any other info about it?
Posted 8/19/2018 9:19 PM (GMT 0)
It’s a marker of inflammation?

Found this -

What Abnormal Results Mean
Increased complement activity may be seen in:
Cancer
Ulcerative colitis
Decreased complement activity
may be seen in:
Bacterial infections (especially Neisseria)
Cirrhosis
Glomerulonephritis
Hepatitis
Hereditary angioedema
Kidney transplant rejection
Lupus nephritis
Malnutrition
Systemic lupus erythematosus
Rare inherited complement deficie
Posted 8/20/2018 1:35 PM (GMT 0)
C4a and C3a are "complements" tests.

We've had a few posts on these the last 4-5 years.

C4a when elevated means there is something going on, but pretty hard to pinpoint and there are mixed theories on what they mean. It does not mean mold or lyme for certain, and there are many ideas as to what can set these off.

My C4a was 55,000 at its highest tested (that's right) about one year after lyme ABX, but shortly after treating Candida again. Then it lowered to 1400's from Paleo diet alone in three months. Figure that one out.
Posted 8/20/2018 2:46 PM (GMT 0)
Astroman, that's interesting about the paleo diet and subsequent drop in C4a. Did symptoms improve and did you feel better with the paleo diet?

I've found diet so helpful for me. It hasn't gotten me to remission, but it's kept me body as strong as possible as I've continued to treat. I've mostly done the vanilla recommendations, avoiding refined sugars, processed foods, dairy, and gluten. I remember when I first cut out refined sugars, there was an immediate improvement in my symptoms.
Posted 8/20/2018 4:19 PM (GMT 0)

sebreg said...
Astroman, that's interesting about the paleo diet and subsequent drop in C4a. Did symptoms improve and did you feel better with the paleo diet?

I did see additional improvement (beyond and past lyme abx) in muscle recovery, brain fog, anziety.

Paleo cuts out so much that its a "shotgun" cure for food sensitivities / leaky gut.

This is why I recently had a very specific food and food chemical test done on 170 common foods known to cause issues in some people.

Although past efforts improved my gut, so many food recent sensitivities says my gut is not healed yet. yeast will make yse of a leaky gut too- candida was pretty common for me.
Posted 8/20/2018 4:28 PM (GMT 0)
Nice, if you don't mind my asking what food sensitivities did you find out that you had? are you seeing improvements cutting out those specific foods that according to tests may be problematic for you?
Posted 8/20/2018 5:06 PM (GMT 0)

sebreg said...
Nice, if you don't mind my asking what food sensitivities did you find out that you had? are you seeing improvements cutting out those specific foods that according to tests may be problematic for you?

I have a post on this "Food tolerance test, (many by MRT kit test)", bottome of this page right now.

They rated all of these 170 food items on a scale for me. My worst four offenders were: cane sugar, corn, cinamon and turkey. Had no idea the last three were bad for me.

There are many more on the next "scale" down. Wheat was high but not on top, its in this next "scale" of ofenders and equaly as bad for me as to any kind of yeast- which is why I had a reaction to yeast probiotics in the past (S.B.). Turmeric also, which explains why I felt worse using this herbal "anti-inflammatory".

Post Edited (astroman) : 8/20/2018 11:54:00 AM (GMT-6)

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