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Are nattokinase, lumbrokinase, serrapeptase still considered good biofilm busters?

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Posted 9/12/2018 9:49 PM (GMT 0)
And if so, at what dosages?
Posted 9/12/2018 10:28 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know - I don't see them mentioned as often.

When I took them in 2014 or 2015 (can't remember) - it was talked about a lot.



My LLMD prescribes xylitol and lactoferrin.
Posted 9/12/2018 11:18 PM (GMT 0)
Hey girlie would you suggest both and rotate?
Posted 9/12/2018 11:27 PM (GMT 0)

LJohn23 said...
Hey girlie would you suggest both and rotate?

Rotate the xylitol and lactoferrin?


No, I take them both together. And they are taken one week per cycle of 4 weeks.

I started with 1/2 tsp I think of xylitol and 250 lactoferrin. Now I'm up to 2 tsp and 500 lactoferrin.
That's as high as I'm going.
Posted 9/13/2018 12:25 AM (GMT 0)
I enjoy Serrapeptase, but steadily rotate other enzymes combinations.
Posted 9/13/2018 12:32 AM (GMT 0)
Girlie- did you experience herxing?
Posted 9/13/2018 12:40 AM (GMT 0)

LJohn23 said...
Girlie- did you experience herxing?

Yes I have herxed many times - but don’t know if the biofilm busters caused any herxing.
I always took it with other abx and sometimes with anti Malarials so difficult to tell.
Posted 9/13/2018 1:02 AM (GMT 0)
Dr M uses serrapeptase and lumbrokinase in combination
Posted 9/13/2018 2:38 AM (GMT 0)
Aerose91- nothing else? No rotation?
Posted 9/13/2018 2:58 AM (GMT 0)
Yes I would say so, that these are good Biofilm busters, the stuff made from earthworms...on good advice from top LLMD Dr. MR of Seattle..

I have not tried these myself as my budget only stretches so far, so I used grapefruit seed extract powder instead which I now have in bulk. Definitely breaks up some bad bugs for some serious herxings..

As far as dosage, a little goes a long way, with the GSE powder anyway...like I wanna say 250mg-400mg or so which is crazy because I have over 200 grams of it left... (!) it's potent.
Posted 9/13/2018 4:43 AM (GMT 0)
I use serrapeptase + lumbrokinase for my bart. They shouldn't be taken together. And my doc also told me rotating enzymes can help to every once in awhile so I'm thinking of trying bromelain soon.
Posted 9/13/2018 2:22 PM (GMT 0)

LJohn23 said...
Aerose91- nothing else? No rotation?

No rotation that im aware of. He also uses NAC
Posted 9/13/2018 5:58 PM (GMT 0)
Girlie- I get the xylitol and lactoferrin, what do you recommend? Should I get both in pill form?
Posted 9/13/2018 6:23 PM (GMT 0)
Also, is there a reason for both or for the rotation? Could I just use one of them? Could anyone help out? Could I just use one biofilm killer?
Posted 9/13/2018 6:41 PM (GMT 0)

LJohn23 said...
Girlie- I get the xylitol and lactoferrin, what do you recommend? Should I get both in pill form?

I get the xylitol in the loose forum...in a container...my prescribed dose is in teaspoons.
So, I measure it and put it in about 1/4 cup of water, stir it up...and drink it. (and take my lactoferrin in capsule form at that time) I do this first thing in the morning...

I do it for 7 days per month.
Posted 9/14/2018 12:03 AM (GMT 0)
Girlie - do you have any brands to reccomend of both xylitol and the lactoferrin?
Posted 9/14/2018 12:24 AM (GMT 0)

LJohn23 said...
Girlie - do you have any brands to reccomend of both xylitol and the lactoferrin?

I bought Jarrow brand of both.

Purchased through Amazon
Posted 9/14/2018 9:32 PM (GMT 0)
Has anyone used RechtsRegulat that dr Klinghardt recommends?
Posted 9/14/2018 9:51 PM (GMT 0)

Zimica said...
Has anyone used RechtsRegulat that dr Klinghardt recommends?

Nope - What is it?
Posted 9/14/2018 10:01 PM (GMT 0)
It's a german product, enzymes from fermented vegetables and fruit that bust the biofilms, and prevent excessive blood clotting. I haven't tried it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFITGfuWrA
Posted 9/15/2018 3:27 PM (GMT 0)
I started back on a mix of serrapeptase and nattokinase. It kicks my butt, so I have cut back on amount. Just doing once a day.

I have read so much that still says they are good biofilm busters. Guessing from my reaction, those two are. No experience with lumbrokinase.
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