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Posted Today 1:26 PM (GMT 0)
My test results finally came back positive for mold, and I am pretty sure I have marcons because of my sinus and teeth issues.
My next appointment with my LLND is not until January. Do you have any suggestions on what to do until then. I am really worried about my teeth, I have constant sensitivity, plaque build up, also staining (I think tinctures play a big role in this, I have to keep them in my mouth before swallowing, but generally both my teeth and my nails stain so easily since my issues started) etc.
I am using Argentyn 23 nasal spray, but I guess I also need something for biofilm busting. I can't find EDTA online, and probably it doesn't come without prescription?

I have a nebulizer and am using essential oils - clove, tea tree, eucalyptus, oregano. I think I herx from this, because the next day the bones in my scull are aching. Perhaps essential oils help with biofilm?

Thanks for suggestions.
Posted Today 8:04 PM (GMT 0)
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Posted 12/4/2018 4:43 PM (GMT 0)
Have you tried coconut oil pulling? Did it help any?

Can you see a biological dentist to check on your teeth?
Posted 12/4/2018 5:53 PM (GMT 0)
I do it regularly, I does help somewhat.
My problems started in my sinuses, and then spread to my jaw, I get this moving pressure and a sensation of something crawling inside my sinuses, under my cheek bones, I swear I sometimes think I have some kind of parasite there.

I didn't get to see a biological dentist, it's too expensive for me right now.
I feel though as this is all part of one and the same problem, I think a long term untreated mold, and possible subsequent marcons.
Posted 12/4/2018 5:54 PM (GMT 0)
Is marcons treated with colloidal silver+edta? Is there anything else, maybe some essential oils?
Posted 12/4/2018 8:32 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not completely sure about this because I haven't ever been tested. My doctor seems to have the philosophy that we don't need to test for it. Let's just treat it like I have it. He suggested using Amphotericin Nasal spray. But he didn't tell me where to get it. I think it may be a compound medicine that has to come from a compound pharmacy. When I did a google search for it, Woodland Hills Pharmacy is the only one that came up.

https://www.woodlandhillspharmacy.com/compounds/biotoxin/amphotericin-b-solution/
Posted 12/4/2018 8:52 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks MA10! It looks from the link that the spray is antifungal.
When I google it, it doesn't come up as a shopping option, I am in Europe...
Posted 12/4/2018 9:02 PM (GMT 0)
I was rather surprised but I noticed that drinking matcha tea seemed to clear up my teeth a bit. I had quite a bit of staining from various tinctures. I just get culinary grade matcha as the ceremonial is more expensive.

Dr Zhang's in vitro studies seem to suggest some essential oils are very effective against biofilms.
Posted 12/4/2018 9:03 PM (GMT 0)
I tested positive for it (not a fun test btw). Did the BEG spray and retested and was neg. Not sure if it helped anything.

I get a tingling/ itching sensation deep in nose when I’m sleeping. Happens on and off. Not allergy bc anthistamines don’t help. I’ve wondered about parasites too.
Posted 12/4/2018 10:08 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Sebreg, I'll read up on dr Zhang's studies and will definitely try some matcha, I've noticed drinking just regular green tea also helps me a bit, and I drink it anyway because I don't tolerate coffee well, and for beauty reasons :teeth:

k07 that's my worst fear, that the spray won't be enough. I am getting closer and closer to the idea of getting a rife machine, I read in some old posts here people had success with it, although I was very sceptical about rife. Clearly by now the problem is deep inside my head, I also get pain inside my ears etc.
I also feel ingesting the sea water through my nose would do something for me.

The thing is, my cat has a very persistent case of ear mites. None of the prescription spot on treatments work. £2 herbal drops seem to work (!), but it takes time and she hates it because of the strong smell. Now I started imagining that because I kiss her a lot something mites transmit got into my nose. But no, marcons makes perfect sense (and so does bartonella).
Posted 12/4/2018 10:52 PM (GMT 0)
Dogs can give you MARCONS. Not sure about cats. I would not advise kissing, sleeping with, or close face contact with animals. Animals can carry a lot of diseases and we have compromised immune systems.
Posted 12/4/2018 11:03 PM (GMT 0)
Read what Shoemaker says about use of Amphotericin before jumping on that.

https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/dr-joseph-brewer-nasal-fungi-anti-fungals-and-junk-science

Shoemaker switched from BEG to this colloidal/EDTA spray not too long ago.

https://www.woodlandhillspharmacy.com/compounds/biotoxin/colloidal-silver-nasal-spray/
Posted 12/5/2018 12:22 AM (GMT 0)
Shows you how much I should trust my doctor. (Rolls eyes.) He did specifically say that he doesn’t follow Shoemaker’s protocol, but Shoemaker makes a valid point about the spray. Can someone point me towards the spray that Shoemaker does use?
Posted 12/5/2018 2:20 AM (GMT 0)

MA10 said...
Shows you how much I should trust my doctor. (Rolls eyes.) He did specifically say that he doesn’t follow Shoemaker’s protocol, but Shoemaker makes a valid point about the spray. Can someone point me towards the spray that Shoemaker does use?

It’s linked in my post above.

Yeah, my latest doc doesn’t follow Shoemaker either. I don’t think anyone, including him, is 100% right all the time, but I appreciate it when folks like Shoemaker disagree with others’ practices and explain why. Most doctors don’t explain why about much of anything. I think some of them just follow other doctors’ protocols without ever question the validity and safety of what they’re doing.
Posted 12/5/2018 11:50 AM (GMT 0)
That's very true WBF, I am aware that animals are a risk, it would be interesting to start a thread here about pets, see what people who have pets do. It's tricky, I also think my pet helps my immune system.
This is our beloved pet of 14 years, she has quite a personality smile

I also read that dogs can give you marcons, but not cats. But then who knows, they of course might give you something else.

Btw, I did last night a neti pot rinse, with salt, GSE, iodine and a not even a drop of oregano ess.oil (I know this is not a good idea, but I have to try everything) and I feel it works in some way, things started coming out of my mouth even though I have no congestion, very surprising.
Posted 12/5/2018 2:19 PM (GMT 0)
Zimica,

Interesting what you said about stuff coming out of your mouth. The first few times I did oil pulling, I had a lot of mucus come up from my throat. Never had as much reaction the other times I’ve done oil pulling.

So many things we experience but have no explanation for.
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