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Posted 12/5/2018 7:04 PM (GMT 0)
Hi folks, i've not been on for a long time. i been doing very well for 10 years. wanted to check in to see how people where doing>

Post Edited By Moderator (Girlie) : 12/5/2018 3:00:28 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/5/2018 7:33 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for coming back to post this.

Wonderful to hear you’re doing well and haven’t relapsed!
Posted 12/5/2018 9:32 PM (GMT 0)
Hi!

I just glanced at one of your last posts. You treated Lyme and coinfections for 3 years and continued with teasel and sauna. Did I get that right?

Do you mind sharing if you had any relapses over the years and what you have done to maintain your health since finishing treatment?

Glad to hear you are doing well. Thank you for checking in. People come on all the time asking if anybody ever really recovers.
Posted 12/5/2018 10:15 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, glad you are doing well. thanks for visiting, gives people a lot of hope and inspiration to know they can beat it and have lasting good health.
Posted 12/5/2018 10:18 PM (GMT 0)
That's great to hear someone is doing good after that long! How long did you have Lyme before you started treating it?
Posted 12/5/2018 10:32 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
Thank you for coming back to post this.

Wonderful to hear you’re doing well and haven’t relapsed!

Girlie,
Don’t we have a thread with success stories? Can you add this one to it?
Posted 12/5/2018 10:50 PM (GMT 0)

WalkingbyFaith said...

Girlie said...
Thank you for coming back to post this.

Wonderful to hear you’re doing well and haven’t relapsed!

Girlie,
Don’t we have a thread with success stories? Can you add this one to it?

Yes we do...I'm pretty sure she hasn't been added to it...so I will add.
Thanks for the reminder.
Posted 12/5/2018 10:57 PM (GMT 0)
Kendall- if you'd like to summarize your journey... in this thread you started today...then I can add it to our success stories thread.

Or, if you wish to start a new thread....
Posted 12/10/2018 4:48 PM (GMT 0)
I'm sorry i didn't reply right back.. I had Lyme for 2 years misdiagnosed. Was treated for Lyme and co-infections for 3 years and continued with teasel and sauna. I no longer take any medications at all. put i do still do sauna's.

Post Edited (kendal122) : 12/10/2018 10:01:54 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/10/2018 7:10 PM (GMT 0)
I was treat for antibiotics for 3 years and co-infections. what worked for me at the end was teasel root and taking saunas all the time. I'm blessed that i haven't had any Relapse.
Posted 12/10/2018 7:37 PM (GMT 0)
Teasel works for me also. Maybe it is what worked.
Problem is, it makes me throw up. I'd rather throw up then feel the lyme, but obviously can't throw up everyday.

I am chewing the roots. Is there a better way to take it? Know any brands? I'd order it today if you had a good recommendation.
Posted 12/10/2018 7:49 PM (GMT 0)
have you tried to take less each day?
Posted 12/10/2018 7:55 PM (GMT 0)

oregonhay said...
Teasel works for me also. Maybe it is what worked.
Problem is, it makes me throw up. I'd rather throw up then feel the lyme, but obviously can't throw up everyday.

I am chewing the roots. Is there a better way to take it? Know any brands? I'd order it today if you had a good recommendation.

Have you tried taking it in liquid form - a tincture or tonic?
Posted 12/10/2018 9:04 PM (GMT 0)
What is teasel good for? Which protocol is it a part of?
Posted 12/11/2018 12:05 AM (GMT 0)
teasel is anti-spirochete, my LLND recommended it highly and told me I could get it by just walking around in the parks and forest.

now so what people think is that lyme actually spends 5-15 or some made up small % of its time as actual spirochete form. Once it gets in, it morphs into persister cells or other form like bio-film.

however, lyme cannot survive high heat. this is why it feels good when you use a hot shower head on a infected body. my crackpot theory is that when the persistor cells are heated, it tries to survive by going back into spirochete form.

I suspect that OP used a very hot sauna, combined with proven anti-spirochete method of action Teasel to kill lyme.

I think this is a worthy protocol we should all try it. However it won't work well if you have a co-infection such as a parasite because that'd give the lyme a place to hide.

along time ago I was going to get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/SereneLife-Portable-Infrared-Person-Weight/dp/B0711XW4P3/ref=sr_1_4?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1544486769&sr=1-4&keywords=sauna

they look ridicilously stupid (look at that lady haha) but it is basically a lawn chair, the folding kind you can get, with a heat pad tarp. Something heats up the water and you sit there.

Kendal,
Would this work for somebody with a budget?
Posted 12/11/2018 1:21 AM (GMT 0)
Well I ordered the Tincture version of Teasel and I ordered the $109 amazon PVC tent suana, I am going to give this a try.

The only reason is because I am feeling really well, but I still take antibiotics on the weekend to prevent my symptoms from coming back. They make me feel horrible, I am unable to function on the weekends with antibiotics. If I feel the slightest itch I get worried lyme might be coming back so I take antibiotics. I have started a job and the abx make me worthless during working hours so I pre-emptively take them during the weekend, and herbs during the week.

I am trying to finish off my battle. I am hoping exercise, with herbs in my blood stream 90 minutes before working out so that the herbs are in my blood stream moving around, and then a hot sauna with teasel might work for me. The more I think about it, the better I feel about it so I ordered the two items and should be here.

Thank you for posting what worked for you I will give it a try.
Posted 12/11/2018 2:02 AM (GMT 0)
Congrats on reaching remission, what brand of teasel root did you buy kendal122?

Because after reading a study and a few reviews of lyme patients on Amazon.com, seems as though different brands aren't created equally due to extraction process...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc4971593/

said...
with the ethanolic extract showed no growth inhibition against spirochetes, whereas two lipophilic fractions demonstrated significant growth-inhibiting activity, with the strongest inhibition found in the ethyl acetate extract.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/r4najjvs1huop/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=utf8&asin=b00klgyl58

Jacqui Komschlies said...

This product does not seem to be nearly as strong as the other brand that I've purchased at Amazon. I honestly have not really had any effect from this one. However, to be fair, it is certainly possible that where the teasel is harvested may make a difference, and that people from different regions may react differently. My past experience with using teasel for Lyme disease treatment is that even a one drop increase could cause a massive herx reaction. This particular product did not seem to have any effect on me at all.

Jacqui Komschlies seemed to have recommended this one
https://www.amazon.com/teasel-root-tincture-extract-organic/dp/b00679tvvm/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=utf8&qid=1422900665&sr=1-2&keywords=teasel+root

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 12/10/2018 7:07:40 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/11/2018 2:12 AM (GMT 0)
That's good to know Charlie. I canceled my order for Dipsacus Fullonum. The one I have here, which is raw root, is from china and is actually Dipsacus Asper. I know the Asper works but makes me sick. However I am unable to google-fu anything about it. Seems like the one to get is Dipsacus Slyvestris. Any thoughts? What about Dipsacus Asper?
Posted 12/11/2018 2:18 AM (GMT 0)

oregonhay said...
That's good to know Charlie. I canceled my order for Dipsacus Fullonum. The one I have here, which is raw root, is from china and is actually Dipsacus Asper. I know the Asper works but makes me sick. However I am unable to google-fu anything about it. Seems like the one to get is Dipsacus Slyvestris. Any thoughts? What about Dipsacus Asper?

I edited my comment, supposedly Dipsacus Fullonum and Dipsacus Slyvestris are used as synonyms, if you notice in the study they say "Dipsacus sylvestris (Dipsacus fullonum) is a species of plant native to Eurasia and North Africa." But that's probably good you canceled your order, at least find out what species and brand kendal122 used, along with what others are using.

Looks like Ecstatic Earthstore ran out of the herb or it's just seasonal?
https://www.ecstaticearthstore.com/store/p270/organic_teasel_tincture_-_10_additional_days_handling.html

Definitely look for a good brand everyone is using and has found a good response to when treating lyme, wonder what brand Stephen Buhner recommends?

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 12/10/2018 7:22:22 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/11/2018 2:20 AM (GMT 0)
I tried dipsacus sylvestris and dipsacus fullonum, and I would say that dipsacus fullonum seemed to definitely have more of an effect. I like to get it from Mountain Rose Herbs. It really helped me, but I stopped taking a little while ago because I've heard that it can increase appetite—and I didn't want to gain any more weight.
Posted 12/11/2018 2:56 AM (GMT 0)
Also these tinctures are kind of a rip off. They are supposively 3:1 extract. 4 oz for $29 (not including shipping). 1 oz = 30ml. 1ml = 300mg... so you get 4oz * 30ml * 300mg = 36g for $30 bucks. Or... you can just buy the darn herb non-tincture and get 454grams for $20.... which is equiv to $378 of tincture..
Some herbalist is driving a Ferrari selling $2 of herb for $29
Posted 12/11/2018 3:43 AM (GMT 0)

oregonhay said...
Also these tinctures are kind of a rip off. They are supposively 3:1 extract. 4 oz for $29 (not including shipping). 1 oz = 30ml. 1ml = 300mg... so you get 4oz * 30ml * 300mg = 36g for $30 bucks. Or... you can just buy the darn herb non-tincture and get 454grams for $20.... which is equiv to $378 of tincture..
Some herbalist is driving a Ferrari selling $2 of herb for $29

That's reasonable, lol, go see what Nutramedix charges for Samento in 1 oz and 2 oz tinctures, lol... 1 oz is $35 and 2 oz is $70.

Then they made something up that their cats claw, that's what Samento is, is more effective at killing borrelia better than traditional cats claw. Maybe there's is some type of efficacy to the TOA free cats claw, but if you've been around the lyme community for a good decade like me, it's kind of obvious what's been going on... These companies always look for a marketing gimmick to set their product off from others... Luckily I think Stephen Buhner kind of squashed that gimmick crap with cats claw!

Very similar to what has happened with Rick Simpson Oil and how some dispensaries price gouge. This is supposed to be for cancer patients, and they're charging upwards of $200 for 2 grams. Even Rick Simpson himself brings it up everytime he does an interview, constantly condoning the price gouging. It's kind of sad!

You do enough searching and you'll find a reliable enough company that charges a decent price or like one person said, maybe make some of this stuff yourself!

kendal122 any word on what brand?

I've heard a lot of lyme patients say I've been cured with this, I've been cured with that, just name a few protocols of MMS, Vitamin C Salt protocol, Colloidal Silver... I'm sure ya have a brand name to the teasel root that's helped put your Lyme in remission?

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 12/10/2018 9:05:26 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/13/2018 6:30 AM (GMT 0)
Bump...

Man sucks kendal122 didn't get back to respond to this thread what brand of teasel root tincture she was using?

I might go with Woodland Essence, just hate waiting with some of these family owned companies, sometimes there's a long wait period like Humaworm. Maybe I'll give them a call see whatsup...
Posted 12/13/2018 6:43 AM (GMT 0)
Charlie - I don't find Woodland Essence takes long to ship the product.
Posted 12/13/2018 7:18 AM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
Charlie - I don't find Woodland Essence takes long to ship the product.

Thanks Girlie, yeah not sure where I'll order from, stumbled across herbal company named woodlandwildcraft.com in Idaho, incredible prices, pretty good reviews on Facebook.

Man oh man are Dragon Botanicals high in price, bought some cryptolepis from them 4 years ago... Don't remember paying that much, wow! $44 for a 4oz.

And holy moly, are a lot of people selling herbal tinctures on Etsy these days too.... Gonna have to take a long look at some of the reviews... But they have everything on there now, even Cryptolepis for a very reasonable price!

Gotta love that chick site, lol, lot of women love that site... I suspect a lot of men now too! My has Etsy grown into a big site these days, may surpass eBay one day!

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 12/13/2018 12:26:04 AM (GMT-7)

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