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Posted 4/17/2019 6:20 PM (GMT 0)
Hello, I would like to up my detox routine by adding in a binder, dose anyone know a good one to start with? I try and get to the sauna atleast twice a week, would it be better to take a binder before or after the sauna? Also any other sugegestion on good ways to detox would be helpful. I did just start taking a turmeric pill for pain which I heard can also help flush out toxins. The pill includes turmeric, ginger, Rosemary, Devils claw, wild lettuce, feverfew, black pepper and Jamaican dogwood, anyone ever try any of these herbs? Thanks for your help!
Posted 4/17/2019 6:41 PM (GMT 0)
I have only used Activated Charcoal as a binder. I find it easy to tolerate - no issues...BUT you must drink a lot of water with it....I take 2 glasses of water.


I'm not sure...but I'm thinking maybe the binder AFTER the sauna to remove all the toxins from the digestive tract.



I have not tried the herbs you listed. Although I believe turmeric is in my curry spice.
Posted 4/17/2019 7:03 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Girlie, I will look into activated charcoal, being easy tolerated is a big plus for me! How far apart do you space it from taking any medication?
Posted 4/17/2019 7:23 PM (GMT 0)
FOOD GRADE CALCIUM BENTONITE CLAY is better than Activated charcoal as it is made from volcanic ash and after absorbing toxins it leaves minerals behind. You can take charcoal and bentonite clay together. I would suggest 1200 mg 3x/day activated charcoal pills as its harder in powder form to take.

However, one of the strongest and healthiest binders is DIATOMACEOUS EARTH. It is made of soft silica filled sedimentary rock. it also has diatom fossils in it which are the founding blocks of earth itself- Diatoms are single-celled organisms which eat earth and release oxygen. AKA the reason we have air on the planet. THIS IS VERY HEALTHY STUFF, it helps with diminishing wrinkles, reversing hair loss, and gray hair. It helps regenerate connective tissue and literally lessens aging. It helps with GI tract issues, kills all parasites and bad bacteria by coating the stomach with a clay that drys up inside our gut. This drying up effect ONLY kills bad bacteria NOT good as the bad dehydrate due to their shorter lifespans and faster metabolisms, when compared to good bacteria, where this is not an issue. People can literally excrete worms after using this stuff. And people swear by it. you'll be amazed at how much info you'll find on it when you look it up.
You'll lose weight, your joints will heal, acne will clear, inflammation will drastically decrease, you'll sleep better, and feel better.
But beware, in the beginning after first taking it you will herx, as the bacteria dies the toxins will be released into your body. Headaches, a general ill feeling, and fatigue are common up first. Drink a lot of water. Hope this helps smile

Post Edited (GreenSoup) : 4/17/2019 8:29:00 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/17/2019 7:28 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not sure if this will be of interest to you, but I thought I'd mention it:

http://www.drwalsh.com/detox

I realize this is not a specific supplement, but give the page a read and see what you think. Toward the bottom of the page, there's also a short video.

Should you be interested in more information about his claims about why most detox programs and supplements are either ineffective or counterproductive, let me know and I'll dig up a couple of YouTube videos I previously watched where Dr. Walsh was interviewed and shared more about how he came to his conclusions.

Because I'm currently unemployed, money is tight. So, I've not yet purchased this program. But, as soon as I can, I plan to do so. I don't know Dr. Walsh and I have no financial interest or affiliation with him or his business.

Whatever you choose, best of luck.
Posted 4/17/2019 8:22 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you everyone for the suggestions, you have given me some really helpful information! GREENSOAP, that is interesting about the Benonite clay, I have been using it in my detox foot baths but taking it in pill form might really be helpful. I have never heard of Dieomaceous earth but it sounds really interesting, I will look into it for sure. TheDudeAbides, the website you posted seems really informative, I would be interested if you have time to post the YouTube videos. I am tight on money also but if there is something that can get me feeling better It's worth the costs! Thanks again!
Posted 4/17/2019 10:00 PM (GMT 0)
Take it an hour before or two hours after meds, supplements and food
Posted 4/18/2019 12:23 AM (GMT 0)
To be clear, make sure that you get food grade diatomaceous earth! Definitely the food grade kind only, unless you're hoping to use it to kill garden pests. smile DE can make you herx because it will kill stuff.

Bentonite clay you can buy in a liquid or powder that you mix with water. Like most binders, this can cause constipation, and if you are detoxing, then you need to avoid constipation at all costs. So make sure you have other things on hand to keep things moving (magnesium and vitamin C are favorites).

To be safe, I'd say take binders at least two hours away from other meds, supplements, and food.

I take large amounts of turmeric for inflammation, and I have had no adverse effects from it (which I say about basically nothing!). There are lots of threads about detoxing, and the sauna is a great method, but to begin I started with lemon water and Epsom salt baths.

Good luck!
Posted 4/18/2019 12:35 AM (GMT 0)

CalmLittleBuddha said...
TheDudeAbides, the website you posted seems really informative, I would be interested if you have time to post the YouTube videos. I am tight on money also but if there is something that can get me feeling better It's worth the costs! Thanks again!

Here you go, friend:

How to Detox Your Body with Real Science (Instead of Pseudoscience)
https://www.theenergyblueprint.com/how-to-detox-your-body

For the following interview, I think the entire show is worthwhile. But, I've queued up one part in particular.

Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Bryan Walsh on Detoxification
https://youtu.be/ooewkcuwquq?t=50m32s

Show Notes: https://bit.ly/2na96s4
Show Transcript: https://bit.ly/2dsnhhp

While not focused specifically on "detox," here's another interview with Dr. Walsh. If you found the above two interviews of interest, then you will probably enjoy the following one, too.

Dr. Mercola and Dr. Bryan Walsh Talk about Basic Blood Chemistry and Health Optimization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6cyios2zd4

I welcome any feedback or comments you may have, should you watch/read/listen to any of them.

Best,
Dude
Posted 4/18/2019 2:49 PM (GMT 0)
Saraeli, thank you for your help, do you know what brand of turmeric you use and how many milligrams you take? On the bottle that I just purchased it says 32mg, that doesn't seem like enough, it is called Giga herbals turmeric supreme for pain. I have heard that you also need to take it with black pepper so that it absorb right so I was looking for a brand with that in it. Thank you for the links The Dude Abides!
Posted 4/18/2019 3:16 PM (GMT 0)
My doctors are big fans of Thorne Meriva curcurmin (curcurmin is the compound from turmeric that reduces inflammation). One capsule is 250mg curcurmin and I take 4-5 per day. I'm not sure how that translates to the full turmeric herb dosage. Typically I take and prefer whole herbs (not a patented, extracted compound) but for whatever reason my doctors are really into this particular brand.... It is not combined with black pepper or anything else that's supposed to increase absorption because allegedly having the curcurmin isolated makes it more bioavailable. Not sure how true any of that is.... Sorry this isn't a more helpful post. smile
Posted 4/18/2019 3:54 PM (GMT 0)
That was helpful, thank you!
Posted 4/18/2019 4:00 PM (GMT 0)
My favorite binder is Ultra Binder by Quicksilver. Its a mix of binders so that you can bind different chemicals, heavy metals etc.
"A Proprietary Blend of: Activated Charcoal, USP Sodium Bentonite Clay, Chitosan, BiAloe® Aloe Vera, and IMD Proprietary Thiol-functionalized Silica"

Its quite expensive so we mix in G.I Detox and Takesumi Supreme also.
My girlfriend takes her binder directly after the ir sauna. I think its more important to shower first and take it directly after that instead.

My favorite detox method is epsom salt footbaths. I try to work as much as possible, so its very nice that I can do it while working from home or when watching tv.
Posted 4/19/2019 1:04 AM (GMT 0)
I have taken activated charcoal and Pectasol-C modified citrus pectin long term with little noticeable relief of symptoms.

I just finally tried Zeobind, and I am feeling better than I did before. I also recently started taking Chlorophyllin at 4 capsules 2x day. Those two actually seem to be providing noticeable benefit and symptom relief.

I also got Takesumi Supreme charcoal at the same time I got the Zeobind. I was using Nature’s Way charcoal before. Not sure if there’s any real difference among brands other than price. Can’t tell since I made numerous changes around the same time (as usual).
Posted 4/19/2019 1:45 AM (GMT 0)
Girlie where do you buy your Zeobind? How much and how often do you take it?
Posted 4/19/2019 1:52 AM (GMT 0)

jb1994 said...
Girlie where do you buy your Zeobind? How much and how often do you take it?

I’m not Girlie, but I ordered the Biopure Zeobind from Amazon and took one dose a day - 1/2 tsp. I just followed the directions on the bottle. Says to take 30 minutes before your main meal. I assume it works similar to cholestyramine - meaning that it binds toxins as they get released in the bile. Eat fat during the meal after you take it.
Posted 4/19/2019 2:02 AM (GMT 0)
Sorry! I meant you Walkingbyfaith
Posted 4/22/2019 10:19 PM (GMT 0)
I really appreciate everyone's advice! I was wondering did any of you Herx after starting a binder? I have been reading reviews about Diatomaceous Earth on Amazon and it sounds really helpful for Candida which I do have but a lot of the reviewers say they herxed pretty bad from the yeast die off. One persons said it took 6 weeks for her Candida to clear up which is great but I guess those first six weeks were pretty misterable. Also once the Candida in your body dose dies off will it just come back if you don't follow a strict yeast free diet? Thanks for your help!
Posted 4/23/2019 1:17 AM (GMT 0)
You can herx on anything honestly that moves around/releases toxins. So definitely yes. I haven't on anything in particular I can think of, but herx can be from anything that stirs up bacteria. Just start very low and slow. Don't tax your body because that's just as bad.
Posted 4/23/2019 4:19 AM (GMT 0)
https://biocidin.com/products/gi-detox

This is what I use along with an extra charcoal capsule.

Bio Botanicals has some great remedies for Candida too, especially Olivirex and Biocidin. I’ve used both and had major herxing but still good.
Posted 4/23/2019 1:49 PM (GMT 0)
Jb1994, that makes sense that you can Herx on anything that stirs up the bacteria, I will be sure to start slow. Thank you Emma for the link, I will check it out. Dose anyone know if binders are something that you need to take everyday or can you just take them as needed for like a week then take a few weeks off?
Posted 4/23/2019 7:34 PM (GMT 0)
As long as you are killing stuff the bacteria are releasing toxins which need to be escorted out somehow. They can build up in your body otherwise. It's kind of a double-edged sword but generally you need a binder every day. Though some people don't use them at all (I'm not at present). Detox of some sort is recommended though.
Posted 12/13/2020 12:39 PM (GMT 0)

GreenSoup said...
FOOD GRADE CALCIUM BENTONITE CLAY is better than Activated charcoal as it is made from volcanic ash and after absorbing toxins it leaves minerals behind. You can take charcoal and bentonite clay together. I would suggest 1200 mg 3x/day activated charcoal pills as its harder in powder form to take.

However, one of the strongest and healthiest binders is DIATOMACEOUS EARTH. It is made of soft silica filled sedimentary rock. it also has diatom fossils in it which are the founding blocks of earth itself- Diatoms are single-celled organisms which eat earth and release oxygen. AKA the reason we have air on the planet. THIS IS VERY HEALTHY STUFF, it helps with diminishing wrinkles, reversing hair loss, and gray hair. It helps regenerate connective tissue and literally lessens aging. It helps with GI tract issues, kills all parasites and bad bacteria by coating the stomach with a clay that drys up inside our gut. This drying up effect ONLY kills bad bacteria NOT good as the bad dehydrate due to their shorter lifespans and faster metabolisms, when compared to good bacteria, where this is not an issue. People can literally excrete worms after using this stuff. And people swear by it. you'll be amazed at how much info you'll find on it when you look it up.
You'll lose weight, your joints will heal, acne will clear, inflammation will drastically decrease, you'll sleep better, and feel better.
But beware, in the beginning after first taking it you will herx, as the bacteria dies the toxins will be released into your body. Headaches, a general ill feeling, and fatigue are common up first. Drink a lot of water. Hope this helps smile

I know this post is all the way from 2019 bt I had.a.question. I was always scared to try the diamatious earth because I thouht In some stupid way it might scratch my insides or something since it's made of sedimentary rock lol. Are there any like side effects or allergic reactions? Who should not try this product and is it fairly sage?
Posted 12/13/2020 4:02 PM (GMT 0)
I have not used DE out of concern, as well.

Buhner warns not to breathe the dust. If you have ever used a powdered clay or mineral, you know that a cloud of dust can get stirred up simply from scooping it out to take in water. I am rather clumsy and worry that I might inhale the dust. Apparently, the dust can harm your lungs. I haven’t heard that it would injure your insides, but I am not sure why it wouldn’t.

Secondly, DE reportedly cuts up parasites in pieces. Somewhere long ago, I read that Klinghardt said the best detox there is is getting parasites out whole. Parasites have toxins, metals, bacteria, viruses inside of them. So if they come out in pieces, they would be releasing all the nasties inside of you. Not sure how accurate all that is, but that’s what I read.
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