Best non-abx treatment for Bartonella?

jb1994 said...
Alright I'll do that. I cannot believe I'm herxing on five drops total a day. Guess I'll put those two on my list too then. Should I get them from Woodland Essence? Is the herxing as bad on JK and SA as it is on hout?

I would get them from WE. I would start each at 2 drops. Don’t start them at the same time. Wait 4-5 days to a week to start the next. You want to see how each affects you, If 2 drops is fine, slowly increase it.

Most people will find Sida acuta the hardest to handle. It is a potent herb. Sida definitely hit me in the head.

Savedbygrace12 said...
I will start slowly with the herbs after I get my legs ultrasounded very soon. The pain in them has been bad and so we have to rule out clots after speaking with my naturopath today.

Truly thanks though for the advice!

If you’re concerned about blood clots, please have your doctor do labs to check your blood and blood thinning/clotting. Many herbs affect blood. Some can cause blood thinning and are contraindicated for folks on blood thinners. Others are coagulants (i.e. Red root) and are contraindicated for those at risk for clots.

If you don’t have Buhner’s Healing Lyme 2nd edition, I suggest you order a copy. You will find the information you need to know there.

Do you take Hawthorne?

If not - take a look at it... great for heart/cardiovascular system

And if you get the Woodland Essence brand - it tastes good!

I did this very thing in the beginning. One suggestion, be sure to refrigerate that second half dose in a sealed container to preserve effectiveness.

Girlie said...
Also - if 1 drop is too much - ie herxing....then put 1 drop in a glass of water. Drink half of it...and the other half the next day.....lol...now that's sensitive!


One of our previous forum Moderators was consulting with one of Buhner's recommended herbalists. And, she had posted that several herbs at low dose...is better than one herb at a high dose as they work synergistically.

...and eventually, you can continue to raise each one...

WBF - start at two? I'm down to one drop of Houttuynia to play it safe, I think I might raise it one drop a week if that. Is sida acuta even worse regarding herxing?

Dang. Better start with one drop of that too. I don't know how I'll ever get rid of this crap.

jb1994 said...
Does this look like a good product or should I just get straight JK? https://woodlandessence.com/products/japanese-knotweed-plus-liquid-extract?_pos=4&_sid=1dc74220e&_ss=r&variant=42182702222

edit: and should I get this or just straight SA? https://woodlandessence.com/products/csa-formula?_pos=4&_sid=699efeaf3&_ss=r&variant=32557362062
trying to hit as many things at once but not sure if this would be overdoing it and/or unnecessary

I would get the individual herbs instead of the mixture to start with so you can see how each affects you. Get the smallest size bottles. Once you get started you can switch to the mixed herbs when you run out. That’s what I suggest.

jb1994 said...
Does this look like a good product or should I just get straight JK? https://woodlandessence.com/products/japanese-knotweed-plus-liquid-extract?_pos=4&_sid=1dc74220e&_ss=r&variant=42182702222

edit: and should I get this or just straight SA? https://woodlandessence.com/products/csa-formula?_pos=4&_sid=699efeaf3&_ss=r&variant=32557362062
trying to hit as many things at once but not sure if this would be overdoing it and/or unnecessary

The CSA is going to hit Babesia.
It’s part of buhners older Babs protocol. The latest one he substituted the “A” (alchornea cordifolia ) with Bidens Pilosa.

W E may have a CSB blend - I haven’t checked.

Hey All,

So I’ve spoke of how I wasn’t going to start the Buhners herbs for Bartonella until I got my ultrasound results. Well today they told me that I do not have any clots (Praise God) but that they are starting to see quite a bit of varicosity (start of varicose veins). Of course as usual no reason for it or why I’m starting to have venous insufficiency at 29. My mind always points to Lyme and it’s co-infections.

Anyways I am going to try a vein supplement by Women’s Sense: VeinSense and start the herbs here soon.

Thank you all truly for your advice and support this year. It’s been such a roller coaster with the indeterminate Lupus result and all the autoimmune type issues I’ve been facing.

I truly appreciate you all and God Bless!