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Posted 9/7/2019 5:11 PM (GMT 0)
Astro - Was it Advanced Laboratory Services?

Edit - found this thread

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3260300
Posted 9/7/2019 6:04 PM (GMT 0)
Yes , advanced labs lyme culture test. Old post. I waited and did this later 2016 maybe but did not keep going with the longer time it was costly.

Pros: No false positives with that test.

Cons: A false negative was still possible. Since we know lyme "BB" bacteria and more specifically, treated lyme, may not be in all blood samples. Also hides in cyst form and white soft tissue (no blood there, no oxygen).

Post Edited (astroman) : 9/7/2019 4:50:12 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/7/2019 10:39 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, advanced labs. That's right. That was a fool proof test. If you can take a blood sample and grow it in a petri dish, it's pretty hard to deny that you have it! That's why the CDC was scared sh**less of this test and did their best to discount it. I've read a couple articles where the CDC tries to discredit this test without good reasoning for it. Fluffy arguments at best. It still makes me wonder why the CDC fights so hard to keep Lyme suffers repressed. What are they gaining from this? I guess we could also ask what they were gaining from the Tuskeegee experiments. I still don't understand that one either. But I still think they should be prosecuted and disbanded as an institution for doing that. With all these Black Lives Matter folks, why isn't there public outrage for Tuskeegee? Why isn't there protestors surrounding that place on a day-to-day basis? It continuely baffles me that they are still operating given that level of corruption, and frankly, that level of evil. President Clinton publicly apologized for the CDC's experiments at Tuskeegee, yet they still operate to this day.

Post Edited (gfields) : 9/7/2019 4:44:04 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/7/2019 10:49 PM (GMT 0)
astroman, in your old post from 2014, you ask if anyone tested positive for this test. I did! They made me stop taking abx for 6 months, and then I had my blood taken, and low-and-behold they were able to grow my critters in a petri dish! According to the CDC that shouldn't happen because I treated with abx for a YEAR! Those were serious abx too. Doxy, mino, rocephin, rifampin, ect ect. According to the CDC, it's impossible for me to have Lyme anymore. But low-and-behold, I still have it. Clearly it hides in biofilms and fat and in the clear fluid in your eyeballs where abx doesn't reach. Contrary to what the CDC says, lyme is NOT easy to treat and cure if it has gone chronic. Once it goes chronic it is very difficult to eradicate. I'm walking proof of that.

I hope this test passes the FDA. This would be a game changer for the lyme community.
Posted 9/7/2019 10:56 PM (GMT 0)
I see at the end of your post that you say someone here recently did the test and it must have been one of the last customers. That was probably me. I was actually beyond the last customer. There's a bit of a story there, but I don't want to make it public to protect the gears that are currently in motion.
Posted 9/7/2019 11:58 PM (GMT 0)
I had Lyme disease diagnosed by PCR test. It does work in many cases. The problem is the cost.
Posted 9/8/2019 12:33 AM (GMT 0)

Quin said...
I had Lyme disease diagnosed by PCR test. It does work in many cases. The problem is the cost.

The other problem is if the sample doesn’t have any DNA of the bacteria - it can be a false negative.

They’re not always expensive.
I had pcr both urine and blood by an unknown lab back east (Canada) and it was $125 per infection .
Posted 9/8/2019 1:03 AM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
The other problem is if the sample doesn’t have any DNA of the bacteria - it can be a false negative.

Same problem with detecting bacterial proteins. There might not be any in the sample.

I had surprisingly consistent positive PCR tests for borrelia burgdorferi. Bartonella was a bit more elusive, and I got a false negative the first time.

Girlie said...
They’re not always expensive.
I had pcr both urine and blood by an unknown lab back east (Canada) and it was $125 per infection .

Canada is a complex situation, as health care is heavily regulated. This may or may not reflect the true cost.
Posted 9/8/2019 6:40 AM (GMT 0)
“Canada is a complex situation, as health care is heavily regulated. This may or may not reflect the true cost.”

I’m not sure what you mean?

This was out of pocket - it’s a private lab and not covered by our medical plan.
My dr signed the lab req but I had to pay for the tests and the blood draw.
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