Has anyone treated Fusarium mold?

I've been told all molds are treated the same.

According to urine test I have fusarium plus 3 others.

I've just gotten lliposomal glutathione and a liver cleanse but haven't started yet.

Next week I see an allergy MD who I think might do blood testing. for mold.

How did you find out you have fusarium?

From what I’ve gathered, different molds are treated differently. Some binders work on certain molds while not binding others.

It looks like fusarium is best treated by charcoal and lycopene/resveratrol but there’s not much out there on it so wanted to get some opinions.

Then it sounds like I'm not being adequately treated.!

I had extremely high ZEA too through Great Plains lab. I also have extremely high ochratoxin A. I had read that both come from food which my LLMD denied. Spent money to have my house tested and numbers not high enough for remediation. Later talked to a woman with a Phd in fungi and without knowing my results she happened to mention that Ochratoxins come from food mostly. Another gliotoxin comes from candida which I've treated for in the past.

This PhD fungi specialist is aware of how molds affect chronic illness like LD, She mentioned that she questions the validity of urine tests for mycotoxins.

Nevertheless, I will treat to see if I get better. I'm going to see an allergist this week who will test by skin and blood I think .It will be intere1sting to see if he gets same results.

I do understand there's a difference though between being toxic and being allergic.

I was tested by skin in 2006 and was negative--not allergi-- for aspergillus, penicillium, cladosporum and equivocal for alternaria.

It's all very confusing

It is confusing, and there are conflicting opinions about mycotoxin urine tests as well as the sources of the toxin exposure.

I, personally, have found the mycotoxin urine tests to correlate well with the ERMI tests on the environment. I have had a total of 3 mycotoxin tests and had ERMI’s done along with them. The mycotoxins in my urine correlated with the molds found on the ERMI.

For what it’s worth, my first mycotoxin test, I was only positive for gliotoxin. I was not on a low mold diet and ate mushrooms and drank coffee every day. I was exposed to high levels of Aspergillis. When I retested after moving, I had completely cleared gliotoxin but had higher levels of other toxins from the molds in the new environment.

My latest test was high on a lot of things, but particularly zearalenone from Fusarium. Since fusarium is not on the ERMI test, I couldn’t be sure where I was being exposed. I did some googling and found a study regarding fusarium. In the study, they were finding fusarium in a large percentage of the houses in the kitchen sink drain. about a week after I got the results, a leak was found under the kitchen sink. Not sure how long it had been going on.

If you have mycotoxins in your urine, you should assume it’s coming from your environment, IMO, not from food.

Zimica,

Hi! I didn’t know that about JKW either. That’s what was written on the Great Plains lab report.

Buhner doesn’t have a book on mold that I know of. However, in his other books, in the information about what each herb is active against, different molds are included. Look in the back of the book for references to different mold species.

JKW definitely helps but I also got increased joint stiffness from it when ramping up. I am only taking 3/4 tsp of powder 2x day. I gave up on trying to ramp up most of my herbs.

Mushrooms are fungi, so if you have fungal hypersensitivity, it could cause issues. I have eaten them a few times since knowing I had CIRS. I didn’t have any ill effects that I could tell. I do love mushrooms. I did get a big increase in chemical sensitivities with Cordyceps when I first started Buhner’s bartonella protocol, so I stopped it. I have been taking Lion’s mane tincture for a few months. I haven’t noticed any issues with it. The cordyceps I had was in powder form.

I definitely need to avoid carbs, especially sugar. My diet has been horrible for the past month. I have given in to pretty much all cravings.

I did the first 2 tests with Realtime and the last one with Great Plains. Great Plains tests for more mycotoxins, includes helpful details in their report, and is cheaper. I like Great Plains better.

Sorry to hear you’re having worse symptoms. I can’t remember - did you move or remediate? Did you do an ERMI or HERTSMI-2?

Yeah, the mold growing inside the body is one I don’t know what to think about. For a long time, I ignored it because the doctor who diagnosed me with CIRS and followed Shoemaker never talked about it. When I finally did an OAT test with Great Plains this summer l, I had high yeast metabolites. However, my Candida antibody tests are always negative (and I haven’t been on long term abx). That makes me think it may be mold as opposed to Candida.

I took Fluconazole 100 mg 1x day for 2 months and switched to 3 days a week Fri-Sun after that. I expected a big die-off reaction but felt nothing. It did help my bowel function somewhat, but while still taking it daily and feeling better, I started eating sugar. It snowballed from there. My bowel function has worsened again with increased constipation, likely from inflammation. I have ropeworm and have been taking Mimosa pudica for that for months. It helps me pass the ropeworm but doesn’t improve symptoms. I have been using Intestinal Mover and Formula One for parasites for about 10 days. It has helped some.

I tend to yo-yo. I feel better a few days after starting something and then feel worse again. Mentally I can’t keep up with what’s causing what.

What had the A-FNG done for you? Is that Byron White Formulas?

I’m also back on Candicid Forte. The first time I did that, it helped my gut more than anything else. I haven’t had the same breakthrough with subsequent rounds of it, but I have been taking it again since finishing the daily doses of Fluconazole.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 10/21/2019 10:26:54 AM (GMT-6)

I only have Buhner's Healing Lyme, but I can't find a mention of any molds in index. Maybe in his Herbal Antibiotics/Antivirals?
Yes, I started A-FNG by byron white, it contains among other things garlic, clove, black walnut, liquorice, orange peel, cinnamon, eucalyptus, sage etc. I guess all potent antifungals. It should work against fungus like candida, but also against mold. I think just like with candida, I can't really beat mold if there is any in my body without strictly sticking to the recommended diet. Dr Nathan supports the theory of mold growing in the body, and says that some patients who have been exposed to it for a long time can't get well without addressing it (taking antifungals).
I took a-fng on and off in the past, but can't really tell what effects it had on me, especially because I took it while I was still exposed to mold, at the time I was able to make very few conclusions about anything (but for example I was well aware of the beneficial effect of a sauna on me). I'll try to be more consistent this time.
I moved out of that property since, and got rid of a lot of furniture etc.

I'll try getting JKW, I know Buhner recommends powder, but the only powder I can get here in the UK is through Bristol Botanicals, I am not sure about their source, Buhner warns that the herb can be contaminated depending on the soil where it's grown. I could get the pills that he recommends through iherb I think, but I am not sure if the effect will be the same, as it is an extracted resveratrol.

Thanks for mentioning Candicid Forte, I didn't know about that product. I tried taking capsules of oregano e. oil but that is way to strong for my stomach, I don't know how people manage to take that.
Have you ever noticed a correlation between taking anything containing gluten, especially wheat gluten and constipation, I know a few people that have this issue.

Brab8878 sorry about talking about other stuff on your thread! I don't know about the binders for mycotoxins produced by fusarium but would love to find out! As I mentioned in the previous post, it looks like the two different labs can show completely different mycotoxins in urine at the same time, so I'd better consider having them all, especially with my recent worsening in symptoms.

Post Edited (Zimica) : 10/22/2019 7:26:23 AM (GMT-6)