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Posted 1/10/2020 5:39 PM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone, because of issues going on at home I have been struggling mentally. Dose anyone have any advice on ways to relieve anxiety and depression? My sleep has also been disrupted, which doesn't help. Since this issue is situational I would like to try natural remedies first before jumping to medication. I do have the MTHFR mutation if that matters and when I was still seeing my LLMD she did an energy test on me and one of the supplements that she said would not be good for me is SAMe. Thank you for your help.

Post Edited (CalmLittleBuddha) : 1/10/2020 6:16:50 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/10/2020 7:02 PM (GMT 0)
St. Johns Wort and Sam-E helped me in the past with low mood. L-theanine helps with anxiety and sleep as does CBD, with or without the THC.

Melatonin also helps with sleep.

Anxiety is no fun, feel better soon!
Posted 1/10/2020 9:02 PM (GMT 0)
SAM-e is precursor of serotonin and works very well for depression for me and my daughter. It isn't cheap, at some point my daughter stopped it and her depression came back roaring, therefore I think it works very well. I've read somewhere that people with certain mutation (not MTHFR) that cause problems with sulphur cannot use SAM-e.

The other supplement that helps us is lithium orotate that we take 2 x day 5 mg (it was suggested also by our LLND). It helps to stabilize the mood and it is dirt cheap on amazon. Here, https://www.treatlyme.net/guide/lithium-orotate-5mg Marty Ross, LLMD talks about lithium.

I have only occasional anxiety and I cannot suggest anything. My daughter has severe anxiety and nothing works for her.
Posted 1/11/2020 12:11 AM (GMT 0)
For fast mood elevation, the following come to mind. Hope something helps you find some relief!

- Yoga specifically for anxiety and depression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJJWArRfKa0
- Chamomile or lemon balm extracts
- Essential oils (Lavender, orange, and peppermint work best for me but your experience might vary. Some have incredible reactions to melissa, but I have not tried it.)
- Sunlight! If that isn't available, then a full-spectrum lamp.
- Laughter (It's a cliche, but there's a reason why funny pet videos are such a huge thing online.)
- Crying (Let it out.)
- Music (Songs that make you feel good.)
- Smiling (I have read that even fake smiling for 15 seconds releases endorphins.)
- Exercise, if you can (Endorphins.)
- Sex (Solo or partnered.)
- Safeguard sleep however you can!
- CBD or another form of cannabis
- L-theanine
- Acupuncture

Good luck!
Posted 1/11/2020 12:49 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you all so much for the great suggestions, I really appreciate it! Duza, for the lithium orotate, is that something that I would need to take everyday or could I just use it as needed? Thank you again everybody, you guys are life savers!
Posted 1/11/2020 2:53 AM (GMT 0)
When they revamped this forum, they should have made it possible to have more and organized "stickies" on the top level vs the ONE big one thats too long to read. This would really help people.

Depression and anxiety are obviously mentally related and sometimes chemically related (deficient) but are also different and can be treated separately. Where they overlap is prob different for everyone.

Both are also symptoms of hypothyroid, had that tested recently? If this is low, its worth knowing most hypothyroid symptoms overlap with these infection symptoms, so its good for everyone here to check Ft3 ft4 and TSH, all three.

As far as non thyroid supps for now:

Amino acid 5HTP is cheap and has been use for both anxiety and depression, have not read of any bad experiences.

Amino acid GABA is used by many but can make you spacey and grogy.

Lithium orotate is a low dose version in 5mg (1 or 2 per day), its a mineral, seems to work for both.

Magnessium glycinate (mineral) is good for anziety but can make you tired if used in the day.

*American Genseng herb gives calmness with focus, I like it.* Korean Genseng can make you too energetic, big diff between the two.

Lavender, passion flower, and chamile, kava kava are all plants that can make you calm and even tired, and come in teas too.

Holy basil and Ashwagonda adaptogen plants are supposed to create calm energy, but sometimes energize some people.

"Face flushing" Niacin vitamin will can calm an anxiety attack in 5 minutes.
Posted 1/11/2020 3:17 AM (GMT 0)
Do any of the above reset the physical process behind anxiety/ dep or is it something that when u stop taking the symptoms return.

I imagine the herbs and the mag might reset.

Asking particularly about 5htp, lithium, gaba. I'd like to fix prob if I can vs. just manage.
Posted 1/11/2020 3:42 AM (GMT 0)
Reset? Not really that easy.

Reset happens when the body heals - when hormones are at proper levels and / or stress is normal. Illness is stress. Till that happens, we have supplements.

The body is a confusing bio chemical reaction.

Its also about genes- what chemicals are blocked in our bodies by food choices or gene issues. What SAMe does or doesn't do is a good example of genes.........I cant take it, its like mental poison to me, but some need it. Cant fix genes.

Another thing- Serotonin is made in the gut and is delivered to the nervousness system/brain via amino acids.

Lyme just magnifies every flaw we already have, its kindling.

Now healed, I take way less stuff. My body was never perfect to begin with, so I try to maintain it and it needs "tuning" now and then.
Posted 1/11/2020 4:03 AM (GMT 0)
I had what I felt was a reset or hormonal normalizing when dealing with stress anxiety by treating with holy basil and ashwaganda. But they aren't helping this time.

Some people swear by rhodiola for depression but it gave me nightmares but foes not do that to everyone.
Posted 1/12/2020 6:08 PM (GMT 0)
Just an update, I did order the lithium orotate, so I have my fingers crossed that it helps. I am also looking into all of the other great suggestions that everyone posted. I was just wondering, do any of you get nightmares? Up until now I never even really dreamed that much but for the last few weeks i have been getting bad dreams. I have not changed anything line medication or supplements around, can stress alone cause nightmares?
Posted 1/12/2020 6:17 PM (GMT 0)
Stress alone definitely can cause nightmares. Seems so unfair. ;)

Rhodiola didn't give me nightmares, but it made me hate everyone. Not my favorite adaptogen. smile But adaptogens involve a lot of trial and error. Each one will work differently for everyone.
Posted 1/12/2020 7:14 PM (GMT 0)
Saraeli, it is unfair, the human body is such a complex crazy thing. I will look more into the different adaptogens, I can see why you didn't like rhodiola LOL. I have the yoga video you suggested saved on my iPad, I am going to try it when I get the house all to myself that way it will be quite and calm, all of your suggestions were very helpful! Thanks again!
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