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Posted 1/23/2020 8:12 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, does anyone know any pain medication that would help with bartonella symptoms such as lymph node pain that could help me get through the night. My doctor (western med) gave me oxycodone but I stopped taking that cause as a female with sever anxiety I realized it was making me feel to good and I've worked my entire life to stay away from stuff like that. But the temptation is hard due to the fact that I cant sleep, and I'm in so much pain.
Posted 1/23/2020 8:25 PM (GMT 0)
Herbs may help. In Stephen Buhner’s protocol, he recommends Red Root especially for lymph drainage. It is contraindicated if you are on blood thinners or have coagulation issues, as it is a coagulant.

Aspirin may help as well if you can take it, although I wouldn’t take high dose or long term.

They can be taken together.
Posted 1/23/2020 8:30 PM (GMT 0)
CBD can provide pain relief and help sleep.

I don't know much about lymph node pain specifically, but to me it suggests a lack of drainage. Are you able to tolerate sweating, like from an Epson salt bath or a sauna? Have you tried massage in general, acupuncture, craniosacral therapy, or self-administered lymphatic massage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA-wi0d7-Ro

Can you say more about the types of pain you are combatting? Do you have other types of pain common with Bartonella, like nerve pain and other neuro symptoms? I understand not wanting to take the oxycodone! I'm so sorry your doctor didn't have better ideas for you.

Essential oils don't sound like a legit option to people who have not worked with them before, but they can be great for pain because they act on the brain so quickly. My best ones for pain right now are frankincense, peppermint, lavender, rosemary, and rose geranium. (Some find peppermint energizing, so you might want to leave that one out at night.)
Posted 1/23/2020 8:44 PM (GMT 0)
I take epsionsalt baths every day with essential oils such as frankincense and lavender. My doctor (ND) gave me a medicine to help I forget the name but it also treat malaria and arthritis, but I had an uncommon reaction to it and so that's not an option. The symptoms I have are my lymphatic system is swollen and really painful, I have kidney stones a lot if that helps put the pain scale into perspective. I also can't think, my ND told me I can't drive due to the fact that I forgot what I was doing and almost crashed on multiple occasions. (lucky for me I'm a teenager, who lives with my mom and she helps me get where I need to go) I get bad head aches and body pains especially in my abdomen. I'm working with my ND to figure out pain solutions however, she went on vacation for the next couple of weeks and can't help me. At the same time I don't react to medicine well and sometimes the reactions put me in the ER. I also do acupuncture, but there's only one in my area and she's mostly booked out. I also can't do massages cause anyone touching my body hurts so much. I also have chest pain and shortness of breath. I do take Advil however I have been taking it for 2 years at least once a day maybe every 2 days and its not healthy.
Posted 1/24/2020 12:52 AM (GMT 0)
ACE29...I don't know if you live in a legal state, but cannabis has been a LIFESAVER for me in terms of pain. I lived on Advil every single day for years due to bad headaches, and five years ago I picked up cannabis at age 48 and never looked back. It helps me with all kinds of pain now while dealing with mold, Lyme, and Bartonella. Just thought I'd mention it because there's still such a stigma attached to it. I really hope you find some kind of pain relief soon.
Posted 1/30/2020 11:28 AM (GMT 0)
Hi again ACE29. Hope you've been feeling better. So impressed that you're able to feel, the powerful addictive properties of the oxycodone & avoid taking it. Rick Simpson's Oil & Ashwaganda are helpful at night, especially. Lazarus Naturals carries rso if you can't find it, locally. We also make pain cream with essential & carrier oils. I can share formulas/recipes if you like. If used together these create a synergistic effect. If I really want a good sleep, I also soak my feet for 1/2 hour in magnesium chloride(Zechstein sea) before bed. Sometimes,take 2 drops of copaiba oil under my tongue. That can bother the stomach so I save the oral-copaiba for the worst pain only. I try to use the safest & most gentle substances possible. Taking the wrong drugs, supplements or herbs can aggravate the situation....as I've learned the hard way! Are you doing lymphatic massage? I think It really does help!
Posted 1/30/2020 4:33 PM (GMT 0)
kratom, tramadol, cordyalis , white willow kava kava and rso oil got me thru add red root to your decoction...
Posted 1/30/2020 5:01 PM (GMT 0)
ACE29, how are you doing?
Posted 1/30/2020 6:24 PM (GMT 0)
I might try marijuana for pain now that it's legal here.

I tried cbd oil and it didn't help at all.
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