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Posted 1/29/2020 7:58 PM (GMT 0)
Hi there!
I'm still on disulfram (now for 1,5 month - next week go for 100 mg / day - I write something in my thread about it)

I'm thinking about some additional support in the treatment - and I'd like to know more about peptides, primarily:
Thymosin alpha-1/Thymosin B4/BPC 157

This peptides was useful for some patients with CFS (my main problem), who did treatment with antivirals or antibiotics during treatment of EBV/Lyme. Someone talked about it as "game changer", but I fails in connect with them for more info.

I wonder if anyone tried peptides here! smile

I'm from EU country and this looks like good source: https://dublin.direct-peptides.com/product/thymosin-alpha-1-peptide-vial-copy/

All experience welcome, thank you!
Martin
Posted 1/29/2020 8:32 PM (GMT 0)
one friend said it helped energy and focus but revved up immune system. its made from bile i don't remember source but it scetched me out . maybe someone else will chime in...
Posted 1/29/2020 9:07 PM (GMT 0)
I have had amazing results with BPC-157. I used it for a Lyme related tendon injury. My triceps tendon had a small tear and even with PT, my arm continued to get stiffer and worse mobility. My LLMD prescribed BPC-157 injections near the site of injury and it made a noticeable difference to the health of my tendon, what was once fibrous and stiff was soft and pliable. My PT was amazed at the quick and measurable difference. I don’t know how it works for energy but it is excellent for tendon injuries!
Posted 1/30/2020 4:39 AM (GMT 0)
BPC 157 unfortunately did nothing for me
Posted 1/30/2020 9:54 PM (GMT 0)
I have a new Lyme doctor whose whole practice is very into peptides. They've been using them for a few months, and she said that most patients notice great improvements, but one "went psychotic." I'd love to hear more about how people have felt on them.

Are peptides gentle enough for people who are sensitive?
Do people herx?
What are the side effects?
What are the risks?
Can they be titrated (started with a tiny dose and gradually increased)?
Posted 1/30/2020 10:05 PM (GMT 0)
Hi saraeli smile

Peptides are relatively safe if they are pure.

I say "if" because a lot of these peptides, even the ones from compound pharmacies are synthesized but not lab tested.

Last time I contacted a well-known lab to test BPC-157 they didn't even have a method for HPLC testing it yet.

Granted, they developed it for us by ordering a reference sample, but BPC-157 is one of the more commonly known ones, so it's just concerning that they didn't have one yet.

That patient you mentioned that went psychotic, I wouldn't be surprised if it was heavy metal poisoning.

Always ask if they have been tested for contaminations and purity first.
Posted 1/31/2020 4:41 AM (GMT 0)
Reading this thread has piqued my interest. I have heard the word but know zilch about it.

What are peptides, and where do they come from?

Is it a pill? An IV? Something else?

What is it good for?
Posted 1/31/2020 9:50 AM (GMT 0)
I'm really interested too! Some experiences sounded really amazing, but still from a small number of people...

I think, mainly it's an intramuscular application, right? Or IV with saline?
Know anyone this source?
https://dublin.direct-peptides.com/

I could order before Britain leaves the European Union (VAT is crazy!) :-D

Martin
Posted 1/31/2020 5:55 PM (GMT 0)
The ones being recommended to me are in syringes, and I would inject myself with them daily. I have heard of people using IVs with them as well.

They are specific proteins (chains of amino acids) that the body produces naturally. The ones people supplement for medical purposes can be synthesized or animal-derived. Each one is good for different things. Here's a summary:https://drnicoladucharme.com/2019/10/31/the-use-of-peptide-therapy-in-chronic-illnesses-such-as-lyme-disease-cirs-and-other-neurological-disorders/

I guess the theory is that if you supplement them, then your body can heal faster?
Posted 2/1/2020 9:13 AM (GMT 0)
Peptides like BPC-157 can be beneficial but have their limits. Anytime you increase IGF-1, you are playing with fire. Just like mTOR, a little can be good but too much is a major issue. I would think they are relatively safe, but the potential is there for some bad things.
Posted 2/1/2020 5:22 PM (GMT 0)

Georgia Hunter said...
Peptides like BPC-157 can be beneficial but have their limits. Anytime you increase IGF-1, you are playing with fire. Just like mTOR, a little can be good but too much is a major issue. I would think they are relatively safe, but the potential is there for some bad things.

If you got too much, would the negative effect remedy itself after stopping, or would it cause irreversible problems?
Posted 2/2/2020 2:03 AM (GMT 0)
I was on Thymosin alpha-1 and it honestly did nothing for me. I think it’s something where if you need it, it helps. If it’s not what’s causing the CFS then it won’t help. I would recommend trying it for a month and if there’s no change then just discontinue it and at least you can rule it out.
Posted 2/2/2020 10:38 AM (GMT 0)
WBF, it would cause cancer.
Posted 2/2/2020 7:57 PM (GMT 0)
I've been on oral BPC-157 and Thymosin Beta 4 for a couple of weeks and just started the subcutaneous injections. So far I think I have benefited from it. I was struggling with chest/heart pain possibly from borreliosis or babesia and have seen some improvement with the pain/achiness. It's expensive but at this point I wouldn't be without it. I'm doing a regimen of a lot of other things so I can't completely attribute my improvement to the peptides, but I really think these peptides are doing something good for me. I listened to the better health guy interview on peptides and from my understanding the Thymic peptides help in several ways, namely by modulating the immune system from being TH2 dominant to a more balanced TH1/TH2, which can then allow the immune system to effectively go after intracellular infections like borrelia. They also are known to increase natural killer cell function. The BPC 157 is also known to protect against mold/mycotoxins which I am also dealing with.
Posted 2/3/2020 5:49 PM (GMT 0)
Georgia Hunter: Hey, this is very, very interesting and looks like a one of the main things to testing before and over using this peptide!

Any studies about it and IGF-1 and mTOR?

Anyone know, if is a difference in using oral or subcutaneous peptides? I mean absorbability...

It would be great to add some verified purchase links to peptides, I know only this source: https://dublin.direct-peptides.com
Its because Im from EU country.

Thanks, Martin
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