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Posted 4/23/2020 10:34 AM (GMT 0)
My girlfriend has been to the hospital 3 times the last week for an ear infection and I had to go to the pharmacy 2 times. We both started coughing lightly yesterday. It could be something else but as its good to start treating as soon as possible, I have started a treatment plan.

Supplements
Vitamin C. I take liposomal vitamin C 3-4 times a day and some in powder form.
Liposomal vitamin D, 2x dose
Zink
Selenium
NAC
Liposomal melatonin at night
Waiting for liposomal glutathione to arrive.
GI Ultramax, it is mix of a lot of different things including medicinal mushrooms.

I also take magnesium, fish oil and buckthorn but not for this.
Liv 52, burbur and pinella, parsley, Ultra binder, Takesumi and GI detox for detox and binders.

Antivirals.
Oil of Oregano
Argentyn 23 (silver)
Andrographis
Waiting on Astragalus
Not sure if I should use A-bart and A-l complex also.

I'm also going to spend more time in the sun on our balcony and I will pick up some plants to the balcony today. Picking them up outside the store so no contact with others.
More IR sauna and Neti pot then normally.
Took most of today of from work and will have 3 lighter days with 2-3 hours of school/work/cleaning etc per day.
Took Argentyn 23 yesterday, Oil of oregano and GI ultramax today, will test Andrographis for the first time tomorrow.

I'm not sure if I should do lighter workouts or not. Worked out the last days so taking today off.
Anything I missed?

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 4/23/2020 4:57:18 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/23/2020 11:28 AM (GMT 0)
If you don't have a heart condition and you end up getting it really bad, people have suggested this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Durvet-Ivermectin-Dewormer-Paste-for-Horses-6-Doses-0-21-oz/372868092033?epid=24012045636&hash=item56d0ab9081:g:ZTYAAOSwt0Fd7GCV

I picked some up in case I get it. I'm not sure about the dosing or anything.
Posted 4/23/2020 12:25 PM (GMT 0)
If you’re not already using the A-bart or A-bab, I would not add them for COVID treatment, unless you know you won’t herx on them. Most people herx on BW formulas. You don’t want to be herxing from Lyme/co treatment if you have COVID.
Posted 4/23/2020 2:20 PM (GMT 0)
I already use them some but I herx more on them then I do on oil of oregano or Argentyn 23
Posted 4/23/2020 2:27 PM (GMT 0)
Dr SP discusses various treatment options

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1554198568080202
Posted 4/23/2020 2:37 PM (GMT 0)
One thing I remember hearing Dr K say in one of his YouTube videos was selenium may not be good to be taking if you have covid, something about it acting the same as heart medication. I don’t have the link at the moment, otherwise sounds like you are taking a lot of helpful supplements.
Posted 4/23/2020 4:48 PM (GMT 0)
Maybe have acetaminophen, an expectorant, and decongestant on hand
Posted 4/23/2020 5:02 PM (GMT 0)
Have you seen this?
https://www.stephenharrodbuhner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/coronavirus.txt.pdf

Astragalus is important, but he omits andrographis. Good luck- hope it doesn't become more than the light cough

Post Edited (potsnpans) : 4/23/2020 11:22:36 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/23/2020 5:28 PM (GMT 0)
I have not seen that pdf before but just read through it. Interesting.
Astragalus and artemisia were recommended by my clinic and andrographis is something that my girlfriend found that should work well as she has autoimmunity.

I haven't coughed the last hours but I have a feeling in my throat instead.

"Notably, the COVID-19 infection rarely seems to cause a runny nose, sneezing, or sore throat (these symptoms have been observed in only about 5% of patients). Sore throat, sneezing, and stuffy nose are most often signs of a cold."

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 4/23/2020 11:36:44 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/24/2020 7:18 AM (GMT 0)

Deep_sleep said...

Supplements
Vitamin C. I take liposomal vitamin C 3-4 times a day and some in powder form.
Liposomal vitamin D, 2x dose
Zink
Selenium
NAC
Liposomal melatonin at night
Waiting for liposomal glutathione to arrive.

i am really concerned about giving Glutathione, NAC and large Vitamin C doses. all of these are antioxidants. I would say vitamin C is fine and has been used on infection in many papers/reports. But u add gluthathione and NAC.... i mean ... inflammation is good when u are sick, it makes the life of viruses and bacteria harder. Why do u think your body would cause inflammation ? If it were always bad, in millions of years of human evolution, the inflammation will dissappear and the humans left on earth will all not be able to create inflammation because it was bad and was removed by evolution.

But it is not bad! It has a purpose. Please consult a doctor with your treatment.

im not a doctor, but If i get sick with this, at home:
- i will not lower my fever with anything, unless my fever goes above 41C and it can cause organ damage. But anything below including 40C is bad for viruses, makes immune system work better. Yes it sucks, but i dont care about that, i care about survival
- i will not take anti inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen, i know it is not clear that they are bad but based on some clinical observations, french doctors advise against it
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/treatments-for-covid-19
- i will take zink , vitamin D, some vitamin C but not huge doses, maybe also a general multivitamin
- get a lot of rest and avoid a lot of physical activity to let body use all energy on fighting
- if i get very bad, i go to the hospital
Posted 4/24/2020 1:30 PM (GMT 0)
I would never contact a doctor in Sweden with this as they have shown over and over again that there is no knowledge about complex diseases. I have emailed about my plan with my practioner. I haven't had any sessions in a long while as my girlfriend has gotten 0 $ a month since summer last year.

I don’t think that NAC, glutathione, and C-vitamin at the same time for a shorter while is as much of a problem as the upside is. But it's good that I eat some white chocolate and potato chips to increase my inflammation then smile

Almost no coughing and no problems with the throat today, but I have one blister on my tongue. I think it's very likely that it's just a cold. My girlfriend feel worse but she does that from her ear infection also.
Posted 4/24/2020 4:04 PM (GMT 0)
"I would never contact a doctor in Sweden with this as they have shown over and over again that there is no knowledge about complex diseases"

Realy....I am supersized. Across the big pond, Sweden is glorified like its the best place ever for every thing.....lol! (kind like they're just better as a country due to their ways of doing things. guess not (?).
Posted 4/25/2020 6:24 AM (GMT 0)
I bought 44 ounces of liposomal Vitamin C and Tonic water. I am taking 5 grams of Vitamin C per day and would increase that to 25 grams a day if I thought I had COVID. As for what you are taking, I wouldn't take the selenium and I'd cut a lot of the supplements except Vitamin D and the melatonin.
Posted 4/25/2020 6:44 AM (GMT 0)
You are the second person saying that I shouldnt take selenium. Why?
I didnt find anything when I searched for it. Its 200 mcg in per tablet and I take 1 per day.

I took Andrographis for the first time this morning instead. No herx so far but a weird smell when I went to the bathroom that I havent had before.

The blister on my tongue is almost gone and I feel close to 100 % today again.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 4/25/2020 9:30:21 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/26/2020 4:55 AM (GMT 0)
If you can get hydrocholoroquine, that is probably the gold standard.

Don't get tested for COVID-19 or you will get it for sure. Tests are contaminated:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/18/coronavirus-tests-delayed-by-covid-19-contamination-at-cdc-lab.html
Posted 4/26/2020 5:10 AM (GMT 0)

gfields said...
Don't get tested for COVID-19 or you will get it for sure. Tests are contaminated:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/18/coronavirus-tests-delayed-by-covid-19-contamination-at-cdc-lab.html

Tests are not all the same nor from the same place. Some are made regionally and will be used on healthcare workers first.
Posted 4/26/2020 9:44 AM (GMT 0)
Deep_sleep, selenium acts as a natural ACE inhibitor and that can increase viral load. Too little selenium is bad but too much is bad too. I don't like supplementing selenium in general. Eat a Brazil nut or two per week, that should be enough selenium.
Posted 4/26/2020 10:02 AM (GMT 0)
Ok, I found this after searching for ACE and selenium
https://www.islandssounder.com/opinion/covid19/
I wont take it every day then. As I dont belive I have COVID-19 I have dropped the vitamin C intake to lower levels again.

Tested Astragalus today and had a pretty interesting herx. I normally only take 1 drop of A-bart and A-l complex, so even as Astragalus is in those I never had that big dosage of Astragalus before. But its good that I have tried things now so I know how I will react if need to take them for COVID-19. I will still take some of them now for lyme.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 4/26/2020 4:06:50 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/26/2020 3:05 PM (GMT 0)
I eat mixed nut and was tested for oxalate issues (dont have that). I toss out a lot of brazil nuts due to the selenium content, more than I need. Tested the levels 2 years ago while doing this- all was good.
Posted 4/26/2020 4:28 PM (GMT 0)
she needs to nebulize the oregano oil. Put 1 - 3 drops in the nebulizer receptable along with water. Too much oil will burn your lungs, so be careful.

I have done this and it works. The covid virus lives in the lungs and you need to deliver the medicine direct to the lungs. Oregano oil will also take care of the bacterial co infections that come along with covid.
Posted 4/26/2020 4:50 PM (GMT 0)
I emailed a thread that you wrote about nebulizers earlier and she tested with an essential oil over a saucepan today.
All reasonably priced nebulizers are out of stock but I'm thinking about buying this one instead.
https://grongava.se/anginhalator.html
Posted 4/26/2020 6:26 PM (GMT 0)
yes, that looks like a good unit, should do the trick
Posted 4/26/2020 7:49 PM (GMT 0)
Good, just ordered it. Going to order and try with oregano oil soon.
Posted 4/27/2020 9:45 AM (GMT 0)
Astraglus was very powerful with decent herxing yesterday and today. I saw on some threads here that it shouldnt be used if you have chronic lyme.
So not sure if I should use it in smaller dosages or not at all.
Coughing and sore throat was back again yesterday and gone now. Strange
Posted 4/27/2020 10:05 AM (GMT 0)
If it's making you feel worse then you should not use it. Some with chronic Lyme have found it very helpful (Traveler I think). For others I guess it just stimulates the immune system in a detrimental way.

I give it to.my wife and kids, but I've never used it.
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