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Posted 1/4/2021 12:49 PM (GMT 0)
I have been taking quercetin for MCAS and it has been working well. I reacted some in the beginning but a lot less now. I take 250 mg 1-2 times a day. I often get a feeling of calm after I take it. I also use a massage gun to quiet down my body. Stress has been pretty insane with peak workload for the year Christmas-New years eve. I had a re-exam in school today and I have another exam soon.

Today I added turmeric + black pepper tablets.
I reacted more than I did to quercetin with some headache and a feeling that something happens in my body. Also got the calmness after a while.

Anyone with experience with turmeric for MCAS?

Update: Not feeling great for the moment, about 2 hours since I took it, and I have been going to the bathroom a lot. I hope to not feel like this after I have taken it a few times.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 1/4/2021 7:30:43 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/4/2021 2:43 PM (GMT 0)
What brand of quercetin are you taking?

I am having a scary re-emergence of MCAS due to mold exposure and need to do something.
Posted 1/4/2021 3:09 PM (GMT 0)
Im using a brand I never heard about before that seems to be Swedish.
https://www.betteryou.se/artiklar/produktartiklar/gurkmeja-en-djupdykning/gurkmeja-50-veg-kapslar

Ohh, I see you asked about quercetin.
I use ReviaBio.
Posted 1/4/2021 6:37 PM (GMT 0)
I never tried any formulas with black pepper in them, but I never experienced any gut symptoms or negative reactions at all to even high doses of curcumin. A former doctor made a big deal of the Meriva formulation being more bioavailable, so I prioritize the Meriva form, usually Jarrow brand.

WBF, for quercetin, I like the Now brand with bromelain, and the Solaray brand. Solaray also makes a chewable that I enjoy.

I never got MCAS flares from those mast cell stabilizers, but I have from others. You might be right that the initial symptoms will dissipate over time, but I know it's hard to be patient.
Posted 1/4/2021 7:06 PM (GMT 0)
Feeling a lot better now. With going to the bathroom a lot that’s because my body is dumping toxins and not stomach problems. But I'm very sensitive to most things and especially in the beginning. I believe that my detox pathways work very poorly. Just ordered some chamomile tea to try for MCAS also.
Posted 1/5/2021 9:13 AM (GMT 0)
I had a pretty rough night, where I was thinking a lot about the exam and I have been quite toxic today. So going to wait until next week when I have two days off in a row after the next exam until I take turmeric again. I'm taking a day off on Friday this week. I had a few days that have been only a few hours, but it is still 14 days in a row with work/school/accounting on Thursday. Feeling pretty tired ☹
I won't be able to put in as much quality studying as planned today….

I got more than 2x the score on the re-exam and a good grade smile

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 1/5/2021 9:02:32 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/7/2021 9:12 AM (GMT 0)
Another hard day and night, so I have to move today's work to the day before the exam and study today instead. That was one of the reasons I failed last time as I have to prioritize working on the days I feel better and my studying suffer as I do it when I'm not feeling well.
Going to wait a while until I take turmeric again and focus more on quercetin. I have seen people recommend up to 2000 mg, where I only take 250-500 mg so I will experiment with increasing that instead.
Posted 1/7/2021 10:48 AM (GMT 0)
Sorry you are feeling crumby deep sleep. I read once that if you have Mercury issues you should not take turmeric, could this be an issue for you? For the quercetin I also read that it can be a problem for people who are over methylated. I have always wanted to try it for MCAS but am worried to, do you know if it is it something that you can take as needed or dose it have to build up in your body to work?
Posted 1/7/2021 1:35 PM (GMT 0)
Yes I had high but not very high mercury levels. But its a long time since I tested and I think all the sauna and binders should have reduced that. Dont know about the quercetin. I started with one tablet every 3 days.
Posted 1/8/2021 9:07 PM (GMT 0)
I ended up doing school today again so I have finally a day off tomorrow. I have never worked this hard since I got sick, so it feels nice that I have "survived" this. I think I will pass the exam I have next week also, so my stress is lower because of that. Went to the outdoor gym in the snow today and just had a beer/vape video-chat with a friend. Stress is hard but I dont think I would have been able to do the last days without the massage gun and quercetin so I look forward to a period where I can perform better.

I took quercetin and used the massage gun on the exam also, and it helped with the stress and increase of heart rate I got during the exam.
The chamomile tea arrived today, but will wait a few days before I try it.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 1/8/2021 2:11:07 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/13/2021 5:29 PM (GMT 0)
I had an exam today. Multiple stomach crashes during the day(removing toxins), nausea, and brain fog. I had a lot of high-stress work yesterday so I used the massage gun a lot. Not that smart…. It's going to be close if I passed it or not, and that’s only because today is one of the worst days in a very long time……
I hate that I have to perform a certain day with exams in school. In my work, I can change what I do if I feel worse.

I had a computer crash this morning also, so I thought I wouldnt be able to write the exam, but it worked after using chkdsk.

I also had a lot of mucus that I was spitting up and I wasn't able to eat the whole lunch before the exam. I had some with mucus before but I can't remember a time where I had a problem eating before. As it was a late exam I still did ir-sauna, Epsom footbath, dry skin brushing, yoga, and meditation, but it didn’t help enough.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 1/13/2021 12:33:24 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/28/2021 6:46 PM (GMT 0)
I passed the exam 😊
I also had ½ cup of Chamomile tea and it again gave me days of pushing toxins. I still have stomach crashes now and then because of toxins. As I now study 100 % instead of 50 % or 75 %, and still have to work but less than before, I can't really afford to feel that bad again.

So it's back to the basic with quercetin, massage gun, low-level laser therapy, and working on my sleep.
Deep sleep has been going well and I have very high readiness scores on my Oura ring, but my timing and REM sleep is quite bad.
Lately, I have been sleeping midnight to 9 am, and I want to shift that to 11 pm - 8 am instead.
A problem I have is that I focus on my routines 6 days a week and then I want to go crazy on Fridays and that messes things up. Alcohol on Fridays for me is fine, but coffee late and then vegan raw ice cream at 1 am wasn’t that smart…..

I have made my own Habit tracker program and it seems to help with routines as I have been a lot better with my morning yoga and no screens 30 min before bedtime. I study/work 6 days a week so I don’t care about that on Friday night and Saturday morning.
I have also been trying to increase my training frequency to 6 days a week. Still quite short sessions, but it's great for my focus to get a break and use my body for a short time.

I feel I have passion again and that must be a good sign that things are improving. There is a decent risk that I will crash with all the stress I have, but I think I'm good at noticing and adjusting when I'm close. I can fail the exam of one of the courses now, and that won't be a big problem.

I'm looking forward to spring soon and having breakfast and coffee in the sun on the balcony.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 1/29/2021 12:28:13 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/30/2021 4:07 PM (GMT 0)
i do have something that very much resembles MCAS , eat a lot of turmeric.

cant say i saw a big relief. not nearly as big as when i take a single Xyzal pill, which does have a profound effect that i can see in about 3h after taking it.

i used to need a few days ot xyzal to calm a flare, but recently i only need one pill every 3 months or so, my flares are very much reduced these days.

i also see relief with quercetin but not as clear and rapid as with xyzal.
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