Top Lyme Literate Doctor Retiring in Michigan, Now What?

Got a question for the lyme community? So what happens when all the lyme literate doctors retire in the midwest states, which we're starting to get closer towards to in the state of Michigan?

Might start to be relevant to some of the topics at hand, seeing how I recently heard our top lyme literate doctor Dr. L announced he'll be retiring soon in Saginaw. The Osteopath Dr. Z in Rochester is in his 70s now, seems to be more concentrated on 5g, cell towers, and finding religion rather than treating a chronic bartonella infections these days(as he told me to go see his church for inner spiritual treatment, heal from the inside out rather than antibiotic treatment), and Dr. M in his 70s at Keego still absorbed in his ego and thinking he's going to still cure Bartonella and Babesia with monoterhapy of minocycline. Then there's the recent Michigan politican that went on the record with the president explained her dilemma, all her surgeries, and even mentioned how her doctor isn't around anymore as well, mentioning how he was one of the LLMDs that flew under the radar and went out of his way to treat her aggressively...
https://youtu.be/0vcpvv6rxf4
https://youtu.be/nhzfuh8txdg

Starting to run out of time, I'm just wondering, because I still see these same lyme doctors being persecuted, mainstream Doctors still saying lyme is psychosomatic and not willing longterm with antibiotics, and the new studies(Nortwestern, Sapi Study, John Hopkins, etc..) I did see someone post a recent study from another university as well, yet all this proof still being ignored by mainstream media and the majority of the lyme community is still at square one with the scientific consensus and standard Doctor treatment

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 1/28/2021 11:37:19 PM (GMT-7)

Thebinge said...
None of the LLMDs in Michigan are any good anyway for someone who is chronic.

You're right for the most part, but Dr. L in Sagniaw was a good doctor for the most part even though he wouldn't use any of the persister cell drugs or IVs, I think he was great for getting you on the right track if you're new to the disease and get your started on antibiotics, along with educating new lyme patients on keeping your liver and kidneys healthy, along with alternative therapy for inflammation, along with other simple stuff like getting you diagnosed or having the Igenex blood test kits on hand to send off to California. Asked him once what he thought about the documentary Under the Eightball when I first contracted like 12 years ago, he didn't hold back and told the truth. Along with new recent revelations with the book Bitten..

Majority of Michigan LLMDS are in their 70s, will be retiring soon, even though they weren't great longterm, they got you diagnosed, started on treatment and educated those that were new. What happens when we lose that? I feel for the next generation coming up, we all know the numbers are either staying the same or getting more each and every the year. Not everyone carries an Igenex bloodwork kit to send off like Dr. L and Dr. Z had in their office. Guess what, it still being 2021, mainstream is still sending off the standard Elisa. Amazing how some things change, like on the internet, but nothing changes in mainstream medicine, feels like being in the movie "one flew over the cuckoo's nest" if you ask me. Still the same people who would probably fill you up with predisone and oipiods, send you on your way...

Somebody said...


I thought Dr. L had someone taking over for him? I saw him for a year about 8 years ago and he couldn't help me. Never

Maybe he did at one point, never heard that...

Sorry to hear that, yeah he was a mixed bag at times, but he definitely got me back on track with bartonella when it got me derailed in recent years. But the antibiotics he used for bart, didn't work, he even knew that when he said the coinfection was so easier to treat years ago... Yet his protocols and drugs never evolved, meanwhile the bacteria obviously did evolve and became more drug resistant strains. Again, going back to what I said, what do we do now, seemingly that the new generation of doctors coming out college aren't evolving either and not much has has changed much within mainstream medical community either. I guess it just hit me hard when I heard he was retiring... I feel for the new patients and new generation.

Your first post the binge, welcome to the nut house, where nothing changes much, but on certain days you might get cigarette if you're lucky...

And I didn't mean the forum really, that is more of a gateway and it's nice place to be, but I'm talking more about the fake reality and world we live in, the internet is starting become more of the reality and truth, than life itself lol.
https://youtu.be/xlvsohbg_ya

Don't want to be too depressing, was working a lot lately, then got layed off, doing two of my jobs, now just down to one again. Along with lifting super super heavy weights and working out, living a decent life. But this disease changes you, even when you come out the other side, you hope for things to change after 12 years pass, when i don't see much change, I guess it just pisses me off. Kind of gives you PTSD or something when you know what the truth is, but still sill people repeat the same conjecture within the medical community like robots that they are, including the Doctors that claim to have Phds and trained in the profession. Literally seems like some form a of a simulation or matrix in an analogical way.

Anyways, maybe the Rona and winter starting to get at me, lol

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 1/28/2021 11:38:01 PM (GMT-7)