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Posted 4/10/2021 2:32 PM (GMT 0)
my partner had raging anxiety attacks - we think from Lyme combined with Bartonella - a few things seemed to help. (i mentioned these in another thread but WBF suggested i start a new thread with them as so many people here suffer with anxiety).

1, L-theanine 200mg 2x a day as a preventative - available as tablets or powder

2, Pasque flower tincture - 10 drops per hour during episodes ( as per Buhner) - seemed to help take the edge off

3, lastly - an odd one - during an attack - lying on back on the floor with knees up and legs on bed and arms out to the sides calmed the attacks rapidly 8 out of 10 times - we were told to try this by a neurologist - something to do with autonomic dysfunction / low blood supply to the brain causing a fight or flight type reaction. we were both surprised when it worked!

feel free to add your own treatments or experiences below as this may become a larger list people can find via the search
Posted 4/10/2021 2:54 PM (GMT 0)
I’ve been using Sam Harris’ Waking Up app which I think you mentioned you’ve used as well. Anyway since I’ve learned how to become a witness and examine my experience I’m learning how to break that loop. Instead of panicking I take a step back and observe the sensation from an alternate frame of reference and it really helps. For me at least.

The other thing I do is box breathing. In for 4 seconds. Hold 4 seconds. Out for 6 seconds. Hold for 2 seconds. Repeat.

As stupid as it is I’ve always started positive thinking. It does help. Reframe whatever is causing your anxiety. The book The Obstacle Is The Way helped w this
Posted 4/10/2021 3:08 PM (GMT 0)
If interested, here is the audio version of the book dcd2103 mentioned:

The Obstacle Is The Way by Ryan Holiday
https://youtu.be/htwpx7nhe-e
Posted 4/10/2021 3:52 PM (GMT 0)
Thx, Garzie!

I am also copying another comment Garzie made regarding the position exercise in #3 on the other post. He said:

“ ps. although it sounds simple - actually getting someone who is having an anxiety attack to lay down on the floor with their legs up can be fraught with difficulty...

memories of " I AM NOT HAVING A ****ING ANXIETY ATTACK!!!!" come to mind”

I thought this was pretty phenomenal and a very simple thing to do. He mentioned it worked quickly the majority of the time and is related to ANS, per the neurologist.

We seem to be ingrained with taking herbs, supplements, or meds to deal with anything, and this sounds way more effective and very quick compared to all that.

When in the the throes, do this FIRST. Then, if it works, you should be able to think more clearly to know what other treatments to take.
Posted 4/10/2021 4:07 PM (GMT 0)
Great idea for a thread...

My mother suffers from severe anxiety and I think I can get her to try the L-theanine. She says that decaf green tea calms her and I just learned that there's L-theanine in it.

I have found fresh motherwort tincture to be helpful.
Posted 4/11/2021 3:56 AM (GMT 0)
In my case, things that help for the long-term were exercise and wilderness, or best yet, exercise IN wilderness followed by some couch time.

I have some natural areas close by but I couldn't really do much of it physically when lyme pain was at its worst besides hanging out by the local stream (calming), so I relied on popping pills/tablets of herb/supplement types like most here.

Supplements- On your last post I forgot to mention:
passion flower capsules/tablets,
face-flushing Niacin (instant relief),
and Lithium Orotate 5mg (very low dose).
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Post Edited (astroman) : 4/11/2021 9:41:12 AM (GMT-6)

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