WBC and SIBO

Just made an interesting observation. There was discussion on here a few weeks ago about what causes low WBC. It seems that consensus is chronic infection. Just gotta tease out if its tickborne, viral, or parasite.

Anyway, going back to 2013 when I first started going to drs my WBC has been low. Average is probably a 3.2. Got as low as a 2.4, high as a 3.5. I had maybe 15 readings in that time period. I also had SIBO that whole time as my gut was messed up w significant gas/loose stools, although that wasnt officially confirmed until 2018.

Anyway, when I went into ketosis for 6m and my bacteria levels went down, I noticed on my Jan 2021 and early March 2021 CBS's that my WBC rose to a 4.4 and 4.5 respectively. I've never seen it above a 4.0. I came out of ketosis late march and as mentioned i developed SIBO again late April, which saw me back at the drs. Just got those results, he runs a CBC every time among other things, and it fell down to a 2.7.


Just thought that was interesting. It makes me wonder if there's a parasite or pathogenic strain down there suppressing my immune system, or a yeast. And when I eat sugar and everything grows it goes to town on my immune system.

Here's a shot from Quest, doesnt have my NYU datapoints which extend further back, but you can kinda see what I'm talking about. That 6m i was on ketosis were the only 2 normal (albeit low normal) data points (this graph only has one of the low normal readings as other one was at NYU, but good enough visual). Coincidence?

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Post Edited (dcd2103) : 5/9/2021 5:05:14 AM (GMT-6)

It’s my neutrophils which drop tho every time

i wonder if during SIBO more white blood cells are recruited to the gut lining and its lymph system due to the inflammation there - leading to lower counts in your arm where they stick the needle in?

after all we are told 70% of the immune system is in the gut - and i have literally seen my partners abdomen swell to 2x its normal size in minutes through gut inflammation - so must be a lot of white blood cells involved there .....

Actually low white blood cell count can mean quite a variety of things about three years ago I private messaged many people here in the past we had low white blood cell count. One of the questions I asked was what was your CD57 level. Some did not know however an overwhelming majority of those who had CD57 tested found that to be low as well. As most of us know CD57 is a general average of a few different killer cells, T cells etc. which are lymphocytes. In this case low lymphocytes can result in low white blood cell count. Also low immunoglobulins can pull down the white blood cell count.

And there is a history of cured or healed past tick infection patients who never fully recover to normal levels of CD57 or white blood cell counts.

There is also known correlation between low immune cells ( which can pull down low white blood cell count ) and autoimmune conditions.