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Posted 6/25/2021 4:42 PM (GMT 0)
So last night I stumbled on some information regarding Bactrim antibiotic which started this whole thing off for me. It said Bactrim could damage something that allows the body to absorb Thiamine B1. Well I look up thiamine deficiency and bells are going off. Weakness in legs, numb arms, sleep disorders, neuropathic issues and most recently blurry vision, all of which I have in that order. I immediately take some B vitamin complex and then a B1 specific before bed last night and skip my Doxy. Had a little bit of a histamine thing going on, slept bad all night and feel like hell this morning. Kind of anxious but also feels like it could be a Herx. Im at a loss here trying to decipher whats truly going on. I got my GP to order a thiamine level test but now will the supplements I took affect that? Furthermore I'm reading that a basic thiamine blood test wouldn't necessarily show if my body was absorbing it properly? Any thoughts?
Posted 6/25/2021 4:45 PM (GMT 0)
This dude Elliot Overton is all about thiamine.

https://youtu.be/vehsfddg2hu

To raise thiamine levels you need more than the recommended dosage.

My NP had me on 1500mg of life extension bentofiamine and 100 of all thiamine. Bento is a must
Posted 6/25/2021 6:16 PM (GMT 0)
Any downside to taking this supplement? Any side effects?

dcd2103 said...
This dude Elliot Overton is all about thiamine.

https://youtu.be/vehsfddg2hu

To raise thiamine levels you need more than the recommended dosage.

My NP had me on 1500mg of life extension bentofiamine and 100 of all thiamine. Bento is a must

Posted 6/25/2021 6:20 PM (GMT 0)
No way. Go slow start at 500 and add 250/wk. I stayed at the top dose for a few months then titrated down to 500. My np is very smart and wanted me to stay at 1500 longer but I wasn’t sure if it was necessary
Posted 6/26/2021 8:34 AM (GMT 0)

dcd2103 said...
This dude Elliot Overton is all about thiamine.

https://youtu.be/vehsfddg2hu

To raise thiamine levels you need more than the recommended dosage.

My NP had me on 1500mg of life extension bentofiamine and 100 of all thiamine. Bento is a must


What I've seen showed the dose of 1600mg had much better results. Why 100mg made that much difference I do not know but they were specific that it had to be 1600mg. They are using it now for Fibromyalgia.

Lyme patients who have suffered for any length of time most definitely have a Thiamine deficiency along with many other deficiencies.
Posted 6/26/2021 1:10 PM (GMT 0)
You may be right Georgia! Thank you for pointing that out. I went back and looked at my notes and I had written down “start at 500 and titrate up to1500-2000mg” so she must have been targeting that same area too.
Posted 6/26/2021 3:26 PM (GMT 0)
i think most of our thiamine is made in the gut by our gut bacteria

https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1008208

so it makes sense that is is off in Lyme as most have disrupted gut bacteria
Posted 6/27/2021 11:47 AM (GMT 0)

Garzie said...
i think most of our thiamine is made in the gut by our gut bacteria

https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1008208

so it makes sense that is is off in Lyme as most have disrupted gut bacteria


This!

Another major hurdle is Tryptophan levels. The bacteria that make the Thiamine also make Niacin and when those bacteria aren't in adequate supply, we have a reduction in Niacin. When Niacin is in short supply, Tryptophan is used to make it and it causes a tryptophan shortage. Eating animal protein helps in the sense that it contains tryptophan and it gives nutrients to the bacteria that are present. Those bacteria are the ones that don't make enough Niacin or Thiamine. We need a bacteria change and that sometimes won't happen unless we change the pH of the intestines. Some pathogens produce by products that alter the pH and prevent us from changing the pH. We need to remove the pathogens and then change the bacteria. We sometimes just can't get well unless we do it in that order.
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