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Posted 8/10/2021 5:40 PM (GMT 0)
I’m currently experiencing a worsening of symptoms after Doxy treatment and would really appreciate some insight as it would be useful to know what bug/s to hone in on..

Feel wavy like I’m on a boat
Ear ringing
Head pressure behind eyes and temples
No appetite (whereas on the Doxy I had a good one)
Wake up with my t-shirt wet with sweat, it can sometimes smell a bit funny
Weird sensation in the veins in my arms and hands
Weird taste at back of throat that comes and goes
Random tightening in chest with anxiety for no reason
Uncontrollable sobbing which just comes on
Posted 8/10/2021 5:54 PM (GMT 0)
I would say definitely babesia, but possibly bartonella as well.
Posted 8/10/2021 6:08 PM (GMT 0)
In the last month or two, I've experienced all but the sweating and weird taste in throat. Last week I started azithromax for bartonella, though it may hit babesia too. The feeling like "I'm on a boat" and ear ringing have gotten worse, which could indicate the azithromax is causing a herx.

That, to me, indicates your symptoms could be from bart or babesia since some of mine are getting worse as I treat (and some better).
Posted 8/10/2021 6:22 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you both smile
I have Sida Acuta and Artemisia Annua in my herb mix. Whenever I take it my ears literally start hissing like a snake before settling down again, but they treat both, so like you say, it’s difficult to tell. The weird taste thing is odd, it came a while back when the disease moved into my throat, but went when it moved into my ears. And now it’s back, hey ho
Posted 8/12/2021 1:09 PM (GMT 0)
I have the ear ringing and minor night sweats from Bartonella. The big one is the uncontrollable sobbing. Before I started treating I had that so bad I would lay awake in bed and just cry. As I treated the Babesia and then Bartonella that went away (along with the waking up ANGRY).
Posted 8/12/2021 1:52 PM (GMT 0)

BrianinPA said...
I have the ear ringing and minor night sweats from Bartonella. The big one is the uncontrollable sobbing. Before I started treating I had that so bad I would lay awake in bed and just cry. As I treated the Babesia and then Bartonella that went away (along with the waking up ANGRY).

Thanks Brian. I’m happy to hear you’re doing better smile I ended up kind of treating everything at the same time. It’s definitely taken the edge off.
Posted 8/12/2021 2:37 PM (GMT 0)
The feeling like the ground is shifting where you just stepped off of a boat on to dry land is called mal de debarquement syndrome or disembarkment syndrome. I’m not sure if that’s exactly what you mean by on a boat. I got this after hurricane sandy hit. Mine gets better with bartonella treatment.
Posted 8/12/2021 3:21 PM (GMT 0)

Bailey said...
The feeling like the ground is shifting where you just stepped off of a boat on to dry land is called mal de debarquement syndrome or disembarkment syndrome. I’m not sure if that’s exactly what you mean by on a boat. I got this after hurricane sandy hit. Mine gets better with bartonella treatment.

It feels like I’m swaying when I’m still or turn my head, not quite as bad as vertigo. During a recent herx, if I turned my head it felt like I was falling to the side. The Bart/Babs herbs have definitely helped with this.
Posted 8/12/2021 3:33 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah that sounds like disembarkment syndrome I developed.
Posted 8/12/2021 4:40 PM (GMT 0)

GemmaCJ said...
I’m currently experiencing a worsening of symptoms after Doxy treatment and would really appreciate some insight as it would be useful to know what bug/s to hone in on..

Feel wavy like I’m on a boat
Ear ringing
Head pressure behind eyes and temples
No appetite (whereas on the Doxy I had a good one)
Wake up with my t-shirt wet with sweat, it can sometimes smell a bit funny
Weird sensation in the veins in my arms and hands
Weird taste at back of throat that comes and goes
Random tightening in chest with anxiety for no reason
Uncontrollable sobbing which just comes on

Yes sounds like babesia. My test was neg bt because of my babs like symptoms wr are going to treat for it anyway. May also be bartonella related, it does a lot to u. One way to know if u have babs is try clindamycin. This antibiotic took ALL of my head pressure away , my dizziness and my POTS symptoms , low blood pressure, however I stopped taking it due to blood flow issues and neuro phsyc increased in symptoms. This was my sign that I possible have babesia as clinda isnt effective against any other tick bacteria only babs. The chest pressure was so compressed as well and felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest at times. Like I said though it did take away my head pressure and other wierd symptoms.
Posted 8/12/2021 4:44 PM (GMT 0)
Also my ears ringing almost to where I felt I was going dead happened while on babs abx, even though I didnt know I had babs. Chest pressure was awful and lots of anxiety/fear/panic/ocd like neuro stuff with brain fog to where I felt I was going insane and some depersonalization by can be hitting bart too.
Posted 8/12/2021 5:00 PM (GMT 0)

GemmaCJ said...
I’m currently experiencing a worsening of symptoms after Doxy treatment and would really appreciate some insight as it would be useful to know what bug/s to hone in on..

Feel wavy like I’m on a boat
Ear ringing
Head pressure behind eyes and temples
No appetite (whereas on the Doxy I had a good one)
Wake up with my t-shirt wet with sweat, it can sometimes smell a bit funny
Weird sensation in the veins in my arms and hands
Weird taste at back of throat that comes and goes
Random tightening in chest with anxiety for no reason
Uncontrollable sobbing which just comes on

Smelling funny how? For me I told the llmd I smelled funny it was my armpit sweat that was ammonia like (more like cat piss to be exact) she suspects bartonella now and says it can make u smell or real even though my bart test was neg to 2 strains bit I didnt use a go of lab. Bart stinks trust me lol, I thought there was something wrong with me but sadly no it was bart. Even showers and deodorants weren't working. Uncontrolled sobbing panic amd cant breath with chest tightening is what i had when I suspect babs and bart. My sweating was like drenched dripping.
Posted 8/12/2021 5:01 PM (GMT 0)

GemmaCJ said...
I’m currently experiencing a worsening of symptoms after Doxy treatment and would really appreciate some insight as it would be useful to know what bug/s to hone in on..

Feel wavy like I’m on a boat
Ear ringing
Head pressure behind eyes and temples
No appetite (whereas on the Doxy I had a good one)
Wake up with my t-shirt wet with sweat, it can sometimes smell a bit funny
Weird sensation in the veins in my arms and hands
Weird taste at back of throat that comes and goes
Random tightening in chest with anxiety for no reason
Uncontrollable sobbing which just comes on

I have bulging veins and the sensation of blood flow or toxins flowing right through my veins on my hands and arms and I've been told that's bart.
Posted 8/31/2021 8:53 PM (GMT 0)

MedicalNerd said...

I have bulging veins and the sensation of blood flow or toxins flowing right through my veins on my hands and arms and I've been told that's bart.

I have had that, too. Where did you hear that that’s from bart?
Posted 9/1/2021 9:35 AM (GMT 0)

MedicalNerd said...
[.....One way to know if u have babs is try clindamycin. This antibiotic took ALL of my head pressure away , my dizziness and my POTS symptoms , low blood pressure, however I stopped taking it due to blood flow issues and neuro phsyc increased in symptoms. This was my sign that I possible have babesia as clinda isnt effective against any other tick bacteria only babs.

sorry to contradict but this statement is at odds with many very clear scientific references showing that clindamycin is active for many co-infections in the lyme and co-infection group

specifically a quick google search is all that is required to find references for its effectiveness for
-multiple mycoplasma species
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10824029/
-chlamydia
-toxoplasmosis
-lyme disease itself
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc4827596/
-others i have not checked

it is actually a broad spectrum antibiotic with activity across a wide range of bacteria - but its use is somewhat limited in clinical practice - where it is often not the preferred 1st line treatment for two main reasons
1- high cost compared to other first line abx
2 - documented fourfold risk increase of causing C-Diff
(perhaps this preferred use case has been a cause of confusion )

i only post as in the hope that it might help avoid people avoid a false diagnosis based on misunderstanding of the drugs specificity and and thereby avoid the wasted time and money on a less than ideal treatment direction.
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