What should I do? Bart/Lyme treatment

Hi, I have Lyme and Bart

Now, that I know the symptoms better. I have had at least Bart for over 20 years. Then Lyme around the same amount. However, it built up so slowly over the years. Coming and going. At this point I am bed ridden. The muscles in my throat are so tight its hard to speak and swallow. My feet hurt so bad at night. Also, my shin bones are swollen and hurt a lot. Its like all off my tendons and connective tissue are all messed up and out of place. I have acid reflux now and decreasing appetite.

I have had some really good luck with Teasel but it was always too intense. However, I built up to full dose too quickly. But, I have been learning people are starting slow and titrating. Which, I think is very smart.

I want to start very slow on Sida acuta then Houttuynia in glycerine form. Then Cat's Claw and another lyme killing herb. This way there will be 2 combinations for each bacteria. So starting one drop at a time and getting too a place just below big herxing reactions and side effects. Then finally adding the Teasel.

I thought this would work. Especially that Teasel helps heal the tendons, bones, joints, etc. It helps rearrange then rebuild. With one drop of the tincture I could feel my muscles warming up inside of me within 5-10 minutes. It also deploys huge amount of bacteria into the blood stream. Thats why I was going to start with the anti-bacterial herbs first. However, I think it only gets Lyme out of the tissue and not Bart. So, thats why I wanted to start low and slow. So, at least the teasel could help direct the Bart killing herbs to these deep tissue places as well. Then, my body could start killing and healing at same time.

I know I probably will have to cycle through these herbs and take breaks every now and then. Maybe even try the many different species of Teasel. Perhaps having it as a Tea if the glycerides don't work.

Or I could go to a LLMD and start on antibiotics then add the herbs later. Or just use the herbs for recovery after killing the bacteria.

What do you think is a good idea? Thank you

Post Edited (LymePeace1) : 10/13/2021 1:17:56 PM (GMT-6)

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unfortunately - i don't think there is any one best treatment for all Lymepeace

my partner got well again after only changes in diet and some short courses of antibiotics for an ear infection - and some buhner herbs along the way

others have done many months or years of abx and are still unwell

people have different reasons for preferring herbs or antibiotics:
-sometimes its because of accessibility - people can access herbs more easily and self treat
-sometimes its about cost - and herbs are typically cheaper
-some prefer not to use pharma drugs and go herbal route believing its kinder to their bodies
-some find they cannot tolerate the antibiotics for whatever reason
-some just want the strongest possible treatment and go for big antibiotic combinations right out the gate

i suspect antibiotics are perhaps slightly more effective if you can find the right combination for you

whichever route you opt for, it seems like there is a lot of trial and error involved and even fine tuning along the way - as what works for each person is different

that said - some drug combos seem to work more often than others - and the LLMD's are the best sources for these
Dr MR has some decent and straightforward pages on treatment options for bartonella and lyme
i will add a link
https://www.treatlyme.net/guide/topics/infection-treatment-plans

Dr Zhangs group studying bartonella have published papers on drugs like methylene blue in combination with a macrolide like azithromycin or a drug like rifampicin seem to work well for bartonella also

Buhners books are the best guide i have found for herbal approaches