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Paul B
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Posted 12/13/2021 5:00 AM (GMT 0)
This has been going around social media today. Evidently the FDA is detaining, with the possibility of confiscation, the import of at least certain drugs from India. Of course, the two they are most after pertain to anti-Covid use, I V M and H C Q, but I don't know if the action stops there or not, it's too soon to tell; or whether it will spread to other drugs in time. Some distributors have gotten around it by shipping from Singapore branches.
I have an order in from ADC for two weeks now, and still no tracking number. I am suspicious and have contacted them.
https://t.me/redpillpharmacist/16182
RainyCloud
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Posted 12/13/2021 8:27 AM (GMT 0)
The same FDA that told people Ivermectin is a horse dewormer and stated "you are not a horse" on twitter?
But then when we go ahead and buy it from India it's suddenly acknowledged that it's a drug for humans which can't be imported.
Funny how that works...
JMF84
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Posted 12/13/2021 2:25 PM (GMT 0)
No tracking number at all for you, Paul B, or is it just not showing up yet as in transit?
dcd2103
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Posted 12/13/2021 2:33 PM (GMT 0)
And then you've got this which comes out this week, a 220k study on ivermectin, mortality cut by 50%. But this is considered misinformation. Ah, Biden's America, censure, lie and obfuscate...
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356962821_ivermectin_prophylaxis_used_for_covid-19_reduces_covid-19_infection_and_mortality_rates_a_220517-subject_populational-level_retrospective_citywide
WalkingbyFaith
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Posted 12/13/2021 2:41 PM (GMT 0)
dcd,
I looked at that link. The results donโt sound very encouraging to me when you look at the numbers.
EDIT: I left out a crucial word - donโt
Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 12/13/2021 11:59:10 AM (GMT-7)
Paul B
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Posted 12/13/2021 4:57 PM (GMT 0)
> No tracking number at all for you, Paul B, or is it just not showing up yet as in transit?
Actually it's a bit confusing. I have been given a tracking number. But looking up the order says
- Order has been shipped. Tracking number/s awaiting Sat, November 27, 2021
And then:
- ##### โ No Tracking Information Available
- No Tracking information found. These are the possible reasons:
- 1: Shipping carrier has not accepted your package yet.
- 2: The carrier hasn't scanned and entered your package tracking information into their system yet.
- 3: Your tracking number is incorrect or invalid.
- 4: Your tracking number has expired and removed from carrier's system.
Yes, I V M has a Nobel Prize as medicine *for humans*, and is on the WHO's list of 100 essential medicines, as is H C Q (The common regular use of H C Q for malaria prophylaxis has been advanced as the possible reason Africa has had few serious virus cases). But suddenly there's a massive disinformation campaign emanating from the highest Western echelons to discredit these medicines and even to penalize their use off-label. There has been a concerted effort to suppress early treatment of the virus in general, the standard of medical care from time immemorial and the only thing certain to save many lives, and an equally concerted effort to force the gene therapy on an indoctrinated populace, despite their rapidly disappearing efficacy and an alarming safety profile which has been suppressed.
But beyond that, my larger reason for posting is the possibility that this signals a broader clamp down on all foreign drug imports.
JMF84
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Posted 12/13/2021 5:04 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting, Paul B. I have received tracking #s for my orders submitted on Dec. 3 but have yet to see it as having been shipped out. I'm hearing it could take several days to show up in transit.
RainyCloud
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Posted 12/13/2021 5:16 PM (GMT 0)
I wrote to a "friend" who is somewhat involved in the sale of Indian pharmaceuticals.
I promise I'm not a drug dealer, it's just that due to Lyme I've needed antibiotics etc. for long often to make two friends along the way. I am not involved in any way other than being a customer.
He said that he had a customer who's package was
opened, the Ivermectin was taken out and then the other medications were delivered to his house. It even had the "inspected" tape on it. The other medications were antibiotics.
So it appears that they are only after Ivermectin for now.
I share Paul's concern about
it becoming broader. Also I want to thank Paul for making this thread. It's very helpful to all of us. Hope that you're doing good by the way ๐
RainyCloud
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Posted 12/13/2021 5:22 PM (GMT 0)
Oh and yes I've even had packages that never updated and then suddenly they were delivered.
But usually the tracking becomes active after 3-4 days.
Probably longer now due to shipping issues.
JMF84
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Posted 12/13/2021 5:54 PM (GMT 0)
That's terrible, Rainy. IVM was in my orders so only time will tell what will happen with them.
Paul B
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Posted 12/16/2021 7:07 PM (GMT 0)
I got my order today. Never got tracking. Contacted ADC on 12/12, got a response today, the day usps sent a delivery alert
.
No "Inspected" sticker, it looked un
opened. Everything was there. It was a small box, perhaps that's a factor in which packages usps inspects.
RainyCloud
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Posted 12/17/2021 8:16 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the update Paul! Happy you received your order!
Paul B
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Posted 12/17/2021 3:11 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Rainy. I hope you're doing well.
JMF84
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Posted 12/23/2021 2:18 AM (GMT 0)
I was listening to a show with Dr. Ardis on. He believes that the idea pushed that the FDA was using the USPS to confiscate IVM at the border was mostly just a fearmongering campaign. They know we are ordering IVM from overseas, so they try to scare us out of it. Dr. Ardis said that if you read through the article (not sure which one he is referring to) that it actually says the FDA said that since IVM is a safe medication that they will not prevent it from coming into the US. He also said that the FDA does not have enough personnel to man every PO.
So, is the FDA confiscating some IVM at the border? Maybe not. And if they are, it appears they will miss most of it.
Will plan to update re: my packages incoming.
Paul B
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Posted 12/23/2021 2:31 AM (GMT 0)
I didn't see that in any articles I read, and there were reports of inspected packages, missing IVM with a letter of explanation, packages being sent from Singapore, etc. However it may be possible that large packages were interdicted, while small ones (like mine) were let through - essentially a fear tactic. NYS's governor issued a 'mask or vaxx' directive last week, but it was not a formal executive order, and she explicitly left all enforcement up to the various counties - some of which have
openly stated they will not enforce it, while others undoubtedly are not enforcing it but not advertising the fact. As such it seems to have been largely a toothless manipulation maneuver.
skinny_joe
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Posted 12/23/2021 2:40 AM (GMT 0)
If they wanted to confiscate it no one would be getting it. The package basically says "drugs from India" on it. I was very surprised the first time I ordered that it was so obviously prescript
ion medication and no one cared.
Paul B
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Posted 12/23/2021 2:47 AM (GMT 0)
I can't speak to how it used to be, but my latest package from ADC does not say Drugs on it, only Merchandise, and in fact it is sent from Singapore, a fact I hadn't picked up on before.
skinny_joe
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Posted 12/23/2021 2:51 AM (GMT 0)
Mine have always said medication for personal use. Or something to that meaning it was very evident. The last package I got from ADC was about
2 months ago and it said some similar. I have gotten them from Singapore as well. Maybe they changed their labeling after losing some packages.
JMF84
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Posted 12/23/2021 1:38 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah, I don't know. It's possible Dr. Ardis isn't exactly correct in what he said, maybe limited knowledge but perhaps it is mainly a scare tactic where they are only confiscating random orders and majority will get through.
JMF84
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Posted 12/28/2021 7:59 PM (GMT 0)
I received one package from India today. Came via Singapore. IVM was present.
Other package is still out there somewhere. Right now, tracking still has it in France.
RainyCloud
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Posted 12/28/2021 8:43 PM (GMT 0)
So happy to hear that JMF84!
I'm sure the other package will arrive too ๐
Keep us posted!
JMF84
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Posted 12/28/2021 9:18 PM (GMT 0)
I should add that I don't see anything on the alldaychemist package that would indicate prescript
ion meds. It says "Health product" as descript
ion on label.
JMF84
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Posted 1/4/2022 10:31 PM (GMT 0)
Received the other package, similar packaging. IVM was present.
Paul B
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Posted 1/4/2022 11:25 PM (GMT 0)
I haven't heard anything else. Maybe they were just firing over the bow. Or maybe the Singapore routing makes the difference.
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