Just when we've heard it all: whipworms (a parasitic nematode) might carry Bartonella (and more)

Here's a study that was just published this month:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/s0001706x21004551

"All samples showed a rich colonization by bacteria, included, preferently, in the phyla Proteobacteria, Firmicutes, Actinobacteria, Bacteroidetes, Cyanobacteria and Verrucomicrobia. A total of 36 phyla and more than 200 families were identified in the samples.

Potential pathogen bacteria were detected in these helminths related to the genera Bartonella, Mycobacterium, Rickettsia, Salmonella, Escherichia/Shigella, Aeromonas and Clostridium.

The presence of pathogenic bacteria in Trichuris spp. would position these species as a new threat to humans since these nematodes could spread new diseases. This study will also contribute to the understanding of the host–microbiota relation."

I would be really interested to see how other parasites would come out of the same test.

Interesting Garzie, thank you. Yes I did some looking around yesterday too, trying to learn more about this approach of dealing with parasites. Seems like there are some strong opinions on it.

I do think there is truth to it actually, but maybe not to the extreme some people take it.

I'm actually considering trying an anti-parasitic just to see what happens.

I found this online:

"The most common and effective treatment for a whipworm infection is an antiparasitic medication, such as albendazole and mebendazole. This type of medication gets rid of any whipworms and whipworm eggs in the body. The medication usually needs to be taken for one to three days. Side effects are minimal."
https://www.healthline.com/health/whipworm-infection

In animals fenbendazole seems to be a big one, although I know some people take it too.

Also, I hope you don't mind me bringing this up, but I would feel really guilty if I kept it from you. I remember you spoke with someone about rectal prolapses and it says on the page above that it can actually cause that (a whipworm infection). So I just wanted to share that with you.

It also says "frequent defecation" which I personally have. It's really frustrating actually because I can't figure out why. I also urinate a ton but don't have diabetes. I know Bartonella infects the bladder so that one concerns me less than the frequent defecation. Which I don't have an explanation for. Although now that I read that I might give one of the -azoles a try. Probably the ones mentioned in the link above but I have to look into it a bit more.

the reference to rectal prolapse seems to relate mainly to very heavy infections - typically seen in children.

the mechanism of action seems to be that the sheer high numbers of worms embedded in the tissue of the rectum cause oedema ( swelling) and this causes the tissues to lose their shape and come outside the body

not nice!

thanks for raising it. and worth checking into it a bit, but i think i or my GP would have known about it if a whipworm infection on that scale was involved.

Oh and thank you for the information on the colon inflammation and buhner reference 😀

Parawellness is the only parasite test I’ve found in the US that’s worth the money. But honestly I’d just do a natural cleanse and see what happens. Some doctors have been saying for awhile that parasites are a roadblock as they can harbor infections as safe hiding spot. (The microbe formulas docs, Dr.k, hell even Hulda Clark theorized that’s what was happening with her zapper in the 1980’s..)

I did a 3 months cleanse with microbe formulas products last summer and the stuff I saw come out.. I did a post on it back then. I actually noticed a lot of improvements too but in retrospect the formula 1 had herbs which are anti babesia (never thought to treat that then) as well and the benefits I had noticed went away with my covid shot 6 week flare and then I stopped the cleanse and Dr. AC put me on a new protocol.

Dr. AC does have me cycling biltricide over the next 3 months with her protocol.

I had taken the formula one and mimosa pudica from microbe formulas with the intention of it being a parasite cleanse GI wise. This was right before I started seeing Dr. A.C. She just uses different methods and asked me to trust her protocol.

I had an initial herx like reaction which lasted two weeks from MF products. I noticed improvements in the weeks following, then I switched to formula 2 around the time of the shot. I believe formula 1 was more effective for babesia than formula 2, although both are comprehensive.

It's also easier to see now because artemisinin and cryptolepis punch me in the face. But artemisinin also goes after some GI buggers... This experience goes into why I encourage everyone to do a comprehensive protocol because it's sooo hard to know what to go after.

Small update: tried 100 mg mebendazole for the first time about 85 minutes ago, feeling a bit out of it, headache and a bit dizzy. Is that normal? The headache feels like it's in the front of my head, which is new for me. Thank you.

sure Rainy - i just replied