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Aylett
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Joined : Jan 2017
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Posted 5/17/2023 2:14 PM (GMT 0)
Can serrapeptase be taken at the same time that I take antibiotics on a empty stomach? Or do they have to be taken at different times of day?
I am trying Arthur Andrew Medical Serrapeptase. It has pretty strong reviews online but is been giving me a lot of wrist pain.
Thanks for your help.
Garzie
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Posted 5/17/2023 3:22 PM (GMT 0)
you can take them at the same time
be aware that fibrinolytic enzymes can increase the effectiveness of antibiotics ( there are scientific papers on this )
that may be a good thing - and in fact fibrinolytic are indicated in some infections - but they can, by increasing the effectiveness of the antibiotics, also increase the strength of any herxhiemer reactions you may experience.
if you are a sensitive person / sensitive to treatments - you may wish to start 1 and then a week or so later, add the other - to offset any potentiating effect - and also to enable you to tell how your body reacts to each
running wild
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Posted 5/17/2023 4:12 PM (GMT 0)
When I got much better back in late 2014, I was taking Bicillin and serrapeptase. Took them at same time
It seemed to do wonders. I was told the serrapeptase would help with breaking up biofilm and, as Garzie mentioned, help antibiotics work more effectively.
Aylett
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Posted 5/17/2023 4:50 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Garzie and Running Wild
I am trying Arthur Andrew serrapeptase. It is bringing about
more powerful Herx than the Doctor's Best serrapeptase I was using. I Herx with increased arthritis pain. I may have to take it every other day.
If there is a serrapeptase brand, you recommend, I'm glad to know it.
running wild
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Posted 5/17/2023 5:17 PM (GMT 0)
It’s been a long time since I used it so I’m not good there.
Whatever you’re using, sounds like it’s working.
Aylett
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Posted 5/18/2023 12:34 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks.
Would you do Lumbrokinase instead?
Significant difference in effectiveness versus Serrapeptase?
The Dude Abides
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Posted 5/18/2023 2:39 AM (GMT 0)
What is the Difference Between Serrapeptase, Nattokinase, and Lumbrokinase?
https://youtu.be/eyhylarmmoq
Garzie
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Posted 5/18/2023 9:58 AM (GMT 0)
just be aware - while these are all classed as fibrinolytic enzymes - the strength of each can be quite different.
the strength of the fibrinolytic effect is a factor of the dose ( in weight of the active substance -typically in milligrams) and the strength of the enzyme ( in enzyme units per gram - or per mg )
eg 500mg of 3000gdu per gram enzyme extract - will be 1.5x as strong as
1000mg of 1000gdu per gram enzyme extract
unfortunately - because of the specific nature of enzymes - each tends to be measured using a different method and therefore the enzyme activity is declared in different units for each - so its hard to make direct comparisons of enzyme activity (strength) and therefore total strength ( enzyme activity x dose)
as a general guide
things like bromelain tend to be milder for a given dose
and lumbrokinase seems to be the strongest
there is also a lot of marketing hype around certain brands of enzymes.
especially those that charge very high premiums.
but reputable brands print both the dose in mg and the enzyme strength per gram on the product packaging and there is no reason to suspect that the same dose of the same enzyme strength from one brand will differ substantially from another.
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