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RunnerMan
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Joined : Mar 2012
Posts : 12
Posted 3/27/2012 3:16 AM (GMT 0)
Hey all,
I'm new here. I have been reading some of the posts in this forum and found them helpful and morally supportive for myself.
However, I still have doubts about
this procedure and how it affects my daily activities. Before I got ill with this, I was a runner. So I guess my question is, do you find yourself able to run, bike, hike and more when you have the bag? Or is it better to have the restorative proctocolectomy done?
Thank you.
flchurchlady
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Posts : 2765
Posted 3/27/2012 5:50 AM (GMT 0)
Welcome,
When I was sick with Crohn's, I didn't have the energy to exercise either, but since I had surgery (proctocolectomy and permanent ileostomy), I'm not sick anymore, so I can run, hike, bike, swim, you name it, I can do it!
B'Dereh
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Posts : 1912
Posted 3/27/2012 9:53 AM (GMT 0)
The bag will in no way interfere with running or biking. And once you have the surgery, the disease won't be eating up your energy any more.
I don't know what you mean by restorative protocolectomy.
NewShinyCD
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Joined : Oct 2009
Posts : 474
Posted 3/27/2012 10:20 AM (GMT 0)
I run and hike. I would go biking but I don't have a bike. I also workout and go swimming, went rafting last summer, and I've played paintball.
You'll need to keep an eye on if you are hydrated or not.
summerstorm
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Posted 3/27/2012 12:27 PM (GMT 0)
I can do all those things, except ride a bike. You know the saying, its like riding a bike, you never forget? Yeah that's not true, you can ask that tree,lol.
Seriously though, it won't interfere with anything! I do the insanity workout with no problems.
And like they said you won't be so run down from the disease, or the meds!
Good luck!
andorable
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Posts : 981
Posted 3/27/2012 2:02 PM (GMT 0)
Yep just like everyone said there is nothing you can't do with a bag. I love my life now with it and do as much as I can unfortunately for me I was diagnosed with RA and suffer terribly with adhesions so any strenuous workout for me is out of the question as my poor old joints can't handle it. But thats nothing to do with the bag, that part is great. I do go swimming whenever I want and do lots of walking but know my limitations. All the best and keep smiling, Life is Good
Doreen
ByeByeUC
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Posted 3/27/2012 2:38 PM (GMT 0)
You can do anything you want with the bag. I opted for the j pouch but I had the bag for about
4 months. If I needed to keep it, I know I could have done everything I normally did. Do your homework, asks lot of questions and ultimately it just depends on which procedure better fits your lifestyle. For me I knew I wanted the j pouch because I have two family members with one and I saw how well they have done all these years with their j pouch. Either way you go, it's great not to be sick anymore! All the best to you!
PS- B'Dereh- restorative proctocoelcomy is just formal surgeon talk for j pouch. :)
blueglass
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Posted 3/27/2012 2:45 PM (GMT 0)
The bag is no barrier to the activities you mentioned, as others said. I had a complication from closing my butt wound, however, that has been a barrier to biking and swimming, at least for a while. Eventually I'll be able to do these things. I'm not a runner, but I could do that now if I wanted to (which I don't, but I do walk a lot).
It's just amazing to have more energy from being healthier. Most of the people here did not have the complication I did.... it happens, but it's much more likely that it won't happen.
RunnerMan
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Joined : Mar 2012
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Posted 3/27/2012 3:51 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you all! These posts has inspired me beyond than what I could have hoped for.
My apologies for not introducing what I have. I was diagnosed with a severe ulcerative colitis and have been battling with it to put it in remission. It was semi-successful. Prior I became ill, I was a collegiate runner who loved to compete in Steeplechase. It was my passion. With this surgery, I am hoping I can return back to that shape.
I will be meeting my surgeon on friday to discuss my options. Hope all goes well!
Once again thanks!
BK
B'Dereh
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Posted 3/27/2012 4:03 PM (GMT 0)
BK. the discussion with your surgeon I will enlighten you even more.
I have UC and a lot of people of this forum have also. I am definitely performing better all around in life and work since collectomy. I am not saying that the surgeon removed my colon and I jumped off the table happy as a lark; I lived with a stoma for 12 months and had take-down last week. There were 3 surgeries in all and I've been through and am going through quite a lot. I don't want to downplan what all this surgery means physically. Only that it is temporary, and that afterwards you can go on without the exhaustion and deadly lack of energy that accompanies UC.
If I may make a suggestion; should you definitely decide for the colectomy, try to do so while you are remission because if they operate while you are taking prednisone, it will mean three surgeries instead of two, and a minimum of 9 months instead of a minimum of 3 between the first and last surgeries.
B'Dereh
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Posted 3/27/2012 4:03 PM (GMT 0)
sorry, that sounded ridiculous: I meant, the discussion with your surgeo should enlighten you more, not that I would.
RunnerMan
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Posted 3/27/2012 4:09 PM (GMT 0)
B'Dereh,
Thank you for the heads up. Right now I am in a remission, well somewhat of a remission. The only meds I'm currently taking are Humira, Ranitidine and 6mp. I have been off the prednisone since last december which is nice. I'm not saying that I will be extremely glad when I'm undergoing the procedure. If I do undergo it, there will be a hold up on my travelling and money will be lost on my part unfortunately. However, I must try and keep a positive outlook in my life.
Thanks again
suebear
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Posted 3/27/2012 4:11 PM (GMT 0)
If you're on prednisone, and pursue the jpouch surgery, it may or may not require 3 surgeries. Your surgeon will take in consideration length of time on prednisone and current dose.
I opted for a 2-step jpouch (was on prednisone at the time). I researched all surgery options (perm ostomy, BCIR, and jpouch) and compared it to my lifestyle. I also spoke with people who had all 3 surgeries. I did a lot of homework.
Since my jpouch surgery 11 years ago I have done several international thru-hikes in the range of 100-200 miles, hiked in and out of the Grand Canyon, hiked the John Muir trail in the Sierras, and backpacked. I have also traveled and hiked in Patagonia, Turkey, Scotland, Wales, England, and Ireland. I have traveled to the Middle East and through Myanmar, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Singapore. My jpouch has never been a problem either out hiking or while traveling.
Best of luck with your decision!
Sue
run4pancakes
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Posted 3/27/2012 4:40 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, BK!
I have a j-pouch, but had an ileostomy for about
ten months. I am a distance runner, though not at a competitive level. I had my colectomy in March and was able to train through the summer and run a half marathon in October with my ileostomy with no issues. I just had to make sure I paid close attention to hydration and getting electrolytes in. Good luck with your decision.
T. R.
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Joined : Mar 2012
Posts : 144
Posted 3/27/2012 7:41 PM (GMT 0)
BK:
just a little something I've found out since my emergency colectomy:
with a colectomy you will ultimately have 3 options:
- a Brooke ileostomy (small intestine pulled through abdominal wall. waste empties into a bag)
- a Kock pouch (internal reservoir that is emptied via a catheter you feed through a small hole/stoma on your abdomen)
- a J pouch (internal reservoir emptied 'naturally' through your anus)
basically, you can go between a Brooke and a Kock with no problem, but if you get a Brooke/Kock first where the surgeon removes your rectum, you cannot get a J pouch later. So it makes the most sense in a way to try a J pouch first because you can always go to Kock/Brooke if needed but if you think you might want a J pouch somete but get a Kock first you won't be able to get the J any more.
blueglass
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Posted 3/27/2012 8:33 PM (GMT 0)
Just thought I'd mention that if you go for a j pouch you wouldn't be at risk for the complication I mentioned, which comes from having the anus removed and sewn shut. I didn't know you had UC when I wrote that. Some people w/UC opt for the permanent ileo, but it seems like most try the j pouch.
When you talk to the surgeon, you might want to ask about
laprascopic vs
open incision surgery. I had mine lapro, and I only have 4 tiny scars from it (size of tic tacs). The healing tends to be much faster, and there are fewer risks of adhesions and other internal complications (your surgeon has to be trained in it though, of course).
Another good thing to know is that if you are going ahead w/the surgery, see a stoma nurse before surgery to place where your stoma will go. Bring the clothes you like to wear most often, so you can get it in a place that works for you.
Hope your consult goes well, and feel free to post more questions.
uc_free
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Posted 3/27/2012 9:15 PM (GMT 0)
I had UC and opted for the permanent ileo at only 36. I didn't want to deal with multiple surgeries, as well as the unknown regarding whether or not by j-pouch would be constantly infected. The hospital I was in (and couldn't get out of due to a severe flare) is a teaching hospital, but not one of the only two within driving distance in which I would have been brave enough to have a j-pouch.
I am happy with my decision, and as time goes on, I have gotten more and more used to it. I hope to get back into an active lifestyle by summer!!
Crosby99
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Joined : Nov 2011
Posts : 86
Posted 3/27/2012 10:22 PM (GMT 0)
bluegrass has advice that I wish I had been given before my surgery. I had no idea where I wanted to put my stoma before my total colectomy and because of that, they put it align with my hips bones. They thought this would be doing me a favor, but because of my height the stoma is now directly on my pant line (since I am so short) and it is a pretty annoying battle of what clothes to wear.
But these are but microscopic issues for me! What matters is I no longer have severe ulcerative colitis, I can eat whatever I want, I am active and free to go wherever I want to go, and I am not in anymore pain. Yes you may have a bag hanging off of your stomach but that is something you get used to, believe it or not.
Another thought - it might seem easy while you're in remission to think that this surgery is not needed. But there is no cure for UC, except for this surgery. You will eventually need to get rid of it if you want to further your active lifestyle as a runner. Doing the surgery healthy will lead to less complications. I had mine done in 3 surgeries and have opted for the j pouch (which is my final surgery scheduled for late April) and I was very sick at the time of the surgery. But my surgeon told me that 3 surgeries is best since it will give me more time to heal not only from the surgery but from being so sick for so long, and there will be less chance of infection.
I am very happy with my decision to conquer this, and like B'Dereh said, this is not a quick fix! You have to be strong and ambitious undergoing these surgeries, which I'm sure you will have no problem with. Trust me, these surgery recoveries are a joke looking back on it after comparing it to the last 15 years that I had flaring ulcerative colitis. I'm only 22 and have learned so much about
myself through these surgeries. I wish the best for you!!
RunnerMan
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Joined : Mar 2012
Posts : 12
Posted 3/28/2012 3:15 PM (GMT 0)
Theresa R., Bluegrass,
Thank you for those advises, suggestions and tips. I feel like I am ready to ask the surgeon about
those options. I think I will opt for j-pouch and if it is possible, laprascopic surgery.
I don't know if it is appropriate to ask on here, but has anyone had Dr. Cataldo of Fletcher Allen Hospital for their surgeon? If so, did you have a good relationship with him?
Once again Thanks,
BK
suebear
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Posted 3/28/2012 4:10 PM (GMT 0)
You might get more feedback on your surgeon if you ask the question at www.j-pouch.org
Sue
summerstorm
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Posts : 6575
Posted 3/28/2012 5:01 PM (GMT 0)
Runnerman that is great to hear, good luck!
Even though your ostomy will only be temporary you still should meet with the ET beforehand and get a good placement, that will make it much easier
Gottago!
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Joined : Jan 2012
Posts : 225
Posted 8/29/2012 12:15 AM (GMT 0)
Runnerman, I came across your post when I was looking up Dr. Cataldo and j pouch surgery. I had seen him a while ago when I first started having UC symptoms (not sure why I was referred to him), but then started seeing a GI at Fletcher Allen when I was finally diagnosed with UC. I am going to be asking for a surgery consult When I see my GI in a couple of weeks. Did you end up having surgery with Dr. Cataldo? Would love to hear about
your experiences since it sounds like we are in the same general area.
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